Tour Bus Spotted in Gerritsen Beach

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Not a sight you usually see on Gerritsen Avenue in the middle of the afternoon on a Thursday!

The NY Times thinks we are being left behind? How funny would it be if we are included in a south Brooklyn anti-hispter bus route.

I could only imagine:

Ladies and gentleman on your right is the home of Brooklyn famous squares; Victoria Pizza. Now if you would please be patient as wait for the ferry. HONK HONK!

61 comments to Tour Bus Spotted in Gerritsen Beach

  • trainman

    Why not?
    With more and more hotels opening up for tourists in Brooklyn, Gerritsen Beach can be an excellent destination for a tour. We still project an image of an old town atmosphere along with fishing boats and a nice beach. Gerritsen Beach also offers the only Volunteer Fire Department in all of New York city.
    So, bring on the buses.

  • Anonymous

    kids should have thrown eggs at the bus so that the tourists got the full experience of the neighborhood

    • trainman

      You must be talking about YOUR neighborhood.
      It’s interesting that someone like you that shows such disdain for this neighborhood spends so much time on its website.

    • Anonymous

      The tour bus is handing out rain coats and a dozen eggs to each tourist to pelt the punks on the avenue.

  • Anonymous

    I couldn’t agree more Trainman. However, going up and down Gerritsen Avenue might get boring. Not really much to see. Too bad the courts and corners aren’t wider, the bus could take the tourist to the boat yards,side streets, and really see the neighborhood while given the history of the area. I see this as a good thing.

    • trainman

      Yes I agree Anonymous 6:37 PM going up and down the avenue can get boring.
      Any touring company worth their salt would have done research of this area and its long history. I understand that GB was once an island and what we call today the weeds had military housing during World War II. I also understand that GB was a summer getaway for the affluent living in the city such as the Hamptons are today. I also think that GB is so far removed from what tourists perception of New York City is, it can be an interesting diversion and for many a reminder of rural areas throughout the country. Anyway, I welcome the tour buses and their customers.

      • anonymous

        I have no idea where you got any of your information from.Most of it is wrong.GB was never an island, it was a Salt Marsh land that a developer filled over with sand from the Shellbank Creek.The sand was pumped from two areas.One by the Tamaqua where the water is about 60ft deep.the other is at the entrance to the Canal also pumped to a depth of around 60ft deep.There was no Military Housing across Gerrittsen Ave. The Government did bring barracks style up here from the south to help with a housing shortage after WW 2. It was only open to returning vets.It lasted into the early 1950’s Then were torn down as more housing opened up in other areas. I lived there and started school there before 277 was built.Any comparisons to the Hampton’s is ridiculous.It was all built by one contractor who owned the electric co,the water co. etc.He went bankrupt in the 1920’s and sold the bungalows to those who lived in them. The fishing fleet party boats that was at the Tamaqua [15-20].Moved out many years ago, along with the great fishing that once was in Jamaica Bay. From a Military standpoint there were anti-aircraft guns on the high hill at the end of the Avenue. To protect Floyd Bennett Field which was a Naval Air Station during the war..Also if you walk back through the weeds you come to a spot with pilings driven into the mud.They were used to tie up barges with bombs and torpedoes for the Naval Station and to hid them from the Germans.If you like the tour buses so much tell them to use Aster Court to find Gerrittsen Beach. Maybe you can sell the tourists lemonade

        • trainman

          Well anonymous, you sure set me straight on this one.

          Let’s see you said, “I have no idea where you got any of your information from. Most of it is wrong.GB was never an island”

          So going over a bridge that was where Ave. U is today onto a piece of land surrounded by water is not an island? Very interesting.

          Then you went on to retort
          “There was no Military Housing across Gerrittsen Ave”

          I see, it was only as you said, ” The Government did bring barracks style up here from the south to help with a housing shortage after WW 2. It was only open to returning vets.”.

          Quite a distinction, I would say.

          And then there is more. “Hampton’s is ridiculous.It was all built by one contractor who owned the electric co,the water co”
          So you would consider building a beach community and constructing houses without heat, not to be a summer getaway? Who, in the 20s, could afford to buy a summer home except for the wealthy?

          And yes, they certainly are welcome on Aster Court and if I were good at making lemonade, I would serve it to them gratis.

          One more thing. I would imagine, with your sunny disposition, you must be a joy to live with.

          • Cap't Tony Jr.

            Anomnymous & Trainman Both of your stories are interesting.

          • anonymous

            The bridge that you mention at Ave. U Was there because the salt water, that was used to run the Old Mill ran all the way past Fillmore Ave..Until the City filled in that land and called it Marine Park.Just as a history lesson when they were installing Ave U they came across what was identified as remains of an old Indian burial ground. Back then it was of no concern to the City as it would be today, so it was just paved over Also in the 1930’s Marine Park was an open air Hospital for those suffering from Tuberculosis It was felt that the fresh air was a cure…Where Gerrittsen Ave is today was all attached to the rest of the Salt Marsh..My correction of your statement “that you understood that the Military Housing was there during WW 2″.It was placed after.I did know of family’s who were wiped out in the Depression of the 1930’s and who only could afford to live in the Bungalow they owned..They put in coal burning heat systems..And lived off the fish,crabs,and clams that abounded in this area..I would suggest if you are really interested join the Brooklyn Historicial Society.. Maps and books of early Brooklyn life includeing GB are available to members…Good luck with the lemonade

          • Trainman

            Anonymous, now you state that there WAS a bridge at Ave U with saltwater running under it. Even my limited knowledge of Gerristen Beach would tell me that since it’s a peninsula today, and 85 years ago a bridge was required to get to, and as you say, saltwater ran under the bridge, I’m going to assume that GB was once an island.
            Msgr. Shevlin of Resurrection at the 75th anniversary of Resurrection Church commented about going over that said bridge to get into GB when he was young. If he were alive today I would certainly forward your objections to him about his faulty memory.
            I also have a question for you about the barracks across Gerritsen Ave. In consideration of your self-appointed authority on the subject, were the barracks built after Germany surrendered or was it after Japan surrendered? Just a thought. If the barracks were built after Germany surrendered to accommodate the GIs returning from the European theater, than World War II did not officially end yet.
            Please check your notes.

            All kidding aside, anonymous, it doesn’t bother me. In fact I welcome being corrected when I state something that’s not accurate. But, what I did not like about your reply was your militant behavior as if to say, “I got you, you S.O.B.”. I think you could’ve behaved a lot better.

          • Anonymous

            Sorry again Trainman, I have to agree with anonymous (with the little ‘a’) on this one. The bridge ran along Ave U at around Burnett st. It’s hard to picture it, but the creek, that being Gerrittsen Creek, did run all the way past where Fillmore Ave is today. Gravesend Neck Road ran all the way to the mill too. (It helps to explain the crazy path that it takes.)Gerrittsen Beach was never an island. I have a map of the area dated 1870 and it’s all very clear. It names all 4 creeks too. There’s a good piece of trivia! P.S. As far as how long I would take to start calling the authorities on my neighbors because of their houses or anything else, the house would have to be directly be putting people or other living things in danger. I just think that should be a last resort. Did anyone just go and ask them what was going on? Maybe there is a good reason. I don’t go to church but I try to be kind and considerate. I try to live by the Golden Rule and treat others as I would like to be treated myself.
            I just don’t care for the way people are starting to treat each other with this 311 tattletailing. Lol,maybe it’s part of the shithead mayor’s dastardly plan to distract us while he robs us, takes away our jobs and our rights.

          • trainman

            Anonymous if you review my original statement you would see that I stated
            “I believe Gerritsen Beach was an island”.
            I do not believe nor was it my intent to speak as an historian on this subject. My objections to lowercase anonymous was his manner in responding to my entry on this website. I took it to be hostile and rude especially suggesting I should sell lemonade to the tourists. That prompted my response. Anything more I say in my defense would be redundant.

            As far as the vacant houses are concerned, I still believe that who ever owns those houses have responsibilities to their neighbors. And one responsibility would be to maintain the exterior in some manner as to not have the house stand out as an eyesore.
            There is a house where my mother lived that has been vacant for over 15 years. The children, that have inherited the house are all professionals in the medical field and for what ever reason, beyond my comprehension, have retained this house all of these years. But, here’s the difference. Every two weeks or so someone comes to the house and trims the lawn, removes any flyers/pamphlets and keeps the weeds in check. If I lived on that block, as far as I’m concerned, they could keep the house vacant for another 15 years and it wouldn’t bother me a bit. I do agree with you that some people exalt themselves as Mayor of the block and believe they know what’s best for everyone. I’m glad I don’t have one of those on my block.

            I believe in your Golden Rule also. And if more people also believed in that Rule, this would be a much better world to live in.

            P.S. I would be the last person to think you have to go to church to be a good person.

  • Anonymous

    Famous squares; Victoria Pizza. Benny would have loved it!

    • anonymous

      Thank you large “A” anonymous..The names of the Creeks were 1-Garritsens Creek, on the East which ran through Marine Park. 2-Plumb Beach Creek on the South 3-Cedar Creek which comes in around Seba Ave.now part of all the filled land to create GB.4-Shellbank Creek which is on the West side and is where all the water front houses are along GB..Cedar Creek still floods underground from Seba Ave. Anyone who builds over the creek usually have sump pumps in the basement..Glad someone else looks at old maps….

      • Anonymous

        Plumb Beach Creek was known as Broad Creek back then. Cedar Creek is the one that indeed is responsible for the flooding and explains why some houses flood when it rains and houses right next door do not. It didn’t run straight but meandered through what is now Gerrittsen Beach and rejoining with Shellbank Creek at it’s end. I had really thought that it didn’t run from Seba, but rather into where Kiddy Beach is now. But with no streets or anything like that on the 1870 map, it’s hard to tell. But it still runs underneath, that is certain.

        • anonymous

          I know it is hard to tell from old maps..I am going on dead reckoning also and 2 houses on the corner of Seba & Madoc where the stream still flows under the houses.My map is a 1917 City Map which shows Vooheries Ave. And from that position it looks like Seba Ave give or take is most likely

          • Anonymous

            On my map (1870) Cedar Creek starts slightly after the turn from Shellbank Creek into Broad Creek. If it were Seba, it would be starting in Shellbank Creek. Something else interesting on this particular map, Hog Creek is not named at all. It’s there, creating Plumb Beach Island, but it’s part of Shellbank. Maybe this is the island that Trainman heard about(?)

        • anonymous

          very interesting wish I could see a map. Bet my house is right over it

  • Anonymous

    277 park was full of young girls with long black skirts same as the bus that up down the ave

  • Anonymous

    It was a bus of orthodox Jewish girls. Don’t think it has anything to do with hipsters

  • Anonymous

    This you put on the site but not people having relations in a car in broad daylight in front of area kids

  • Tom McCormick

    Was it being used as tour bus, or was it full of Ultra Orthodox Hasidics? Senator Golden leased our feilds to them for the next 15 years. Thought you all would lie to know.

    • Anonymous

      You are wrong Tom. The Senator does not lease fields or handle permits. He is a NY State Legislator. If you have a problem with the parks department then you should call 311 and get a complaint # and call your city Councilman.

      • Tom McCormick

        I hope you are right. I am merely presenting the information that was reported to me from a pretty reliable person. I have spoken highly of the senator, even on this very webpage. Senator Golden has, to the best of my knowledge, always done right by this community until I was presented with this. I have no reason to knowingly spread false information. I post under my real name as a testament to what I write. Currently I’m doing my own due diligence on the issue and will get to the bottom of it. There is an agenda here on somebody’s part and I’m not going to let anyone pull the wool over our eyes.

        • Anonymous

          Senator Golden is a friend and also, I know for sure that this has nothing to do with him or his office. If there is a complaint about Parks, then call 311 and get a complaint #. If enough people call then, it will be addressed by Parks Department.

  • Christine Molloy

    Well, he just lost my vote. I guess he support a religious organization that is anti-women. (Yup, that’s my story and I’m sticking to it.) Ladies, get yourselves into your bikinis and start walking your dogs up at the park during the week in the afternoon. Gentlemen, show your support by walking your dogs too.

  • You Know I'm Right

    I can’t help but notice how there are all females on the upper level. I bet the males are cowering behind the tinted windows.

  • Irish Kevin

    The Hasids wanted to see how the commoners live.

  • Anonymous

    Tom McCormick should know that Senator Golden is a State Legislator and has nothing to do with Park permits or leases.

    • Anonymous

      I agree Anonymous. I doubt very much that the fields were leased to anyone for the next 15 years. I could only imagine the kaos that would insue because we or anyone else couldn’t use the fields because a private organization has the sole rights to the them. Permits are a different story and can only be issued by the parks dept. And usually for a one day event or a week or two like when the circus comes to Marine park.

      • You Know I'm Right

        Golden’s opponent stopped at several block parties through out the neighborhood and said this is what Golden has done. Let Golden address the matter then. Also, someone should verify that those day camps have the proper permits for use of the park, especially if they are a for-profit organization.

        • Anonymous

          Golden has been there for Gerritsen and he knows the issues. It took Gerritsen a long time to get someone in office that cares. He has been there for Gerritsen and Gerritsen should be there for him. He’s been a friend a long time.

        • Anonymous

          It’s a shame that his opponent knows nothing about State Issues and Gerritsen Beach. He should know that Parks Department complaints go to 311 or does he?Is he trying to pull the wool over your eyes by negative politics?
          I would be offended by this opponent if I were you.

  • Anonymous

    When did Hasids start not having the right to use a city park ?

    • Tom McCormick

      If they have their paperwork in order then no one.

      http://www.nycgovparks.org/pagefiles/51/sports_guidelines_form.pdf

      Let’s take up all of these other posters who hide behind anonymity and call 311, not just a few of us but a hundred of us. The next time a bus load of anyone not from out community arrives to use the fields call 311.

      • Anonymous

        Tom, since when does a bus load of anyone need paperwork to use a public park? As long as they’re playing ball or just sitting around, having a few sandwiches, some soft drinks no permits are needed. As long as they clean up afterwards what’s the harm? They would only need a permit if they wanted to reserve the field, were having an event such as a fundraiser or a charity event with tables set up and serving food, drinks and having entertainment. I see people from the neighborhood playing ball in the fields every weekend and I doubt they have any paperwork. You make yourself sound so narrow minded and prejudice when you state anyone not from our community arrives to use the fields to call 311!

        • Tom McCormick

          Our visitors have been playing ball and they have not cleaning up after themselves not to mention disrupting traffic with 2x and 3x parking on the Avenue.

          All of the athletic organizations from this neighborhood have permits to play. These organizations that have permits have been getting resistance from our visitors when attempting to play ball up at those fields that they secured permits for.

          I’m not narrow minded. I’m informed.

    • Anonymous

      Since people like Tom started thinking the fields are only for the residence’s of GB.

    • Anonymouse

      They absolutely have the right to use the park, however they do not have the right to double park or leave all their litter behind. We don’t come to your neighborhood and shit all over it so don’t do it to ours.

      • anonymous

        This may be their neighborhood soon, I think they are beginning to like the area. I believe at least one person may have already bought a home and many walk the Avenue.

  • The Beacher

    Now this has turned into a Political rant for Golden,Remember that Politicians once elected make sure they come first. Golden is out for Golden. It would not surprise me if many of the anon’s are paid bloggers for Golden. Now all this over one “Bus” ? Everyone must be quite bored.

  • Anonymous

    You said: “Gerritsen Beach also offers the only Volunteer Fire Department in all of New York city.”

    Incorrect. There are nine volunteer fire companies remaining in NYC. Two of them are Breezy Point and Roxbury, almost within view of Gerritsen Beach. Broad Channel, Hamilton Beach and a few in Staten Island.

    The post-WW2 veteran housing was built in 1946-1947. Along with other similar projects like the 2000-family Jamaica Bay Veterans Housing Project in the Canarsie section of Brooklyn.

    I seriously doubt the Navy stored munitions in Gerritsen Beach. There were casemated magazines in the remote rear part of Floyd Bennett Field. Munitions are never stored in a residential area. Even back then.

    • anonymous

      I must admit that the munitions statement was something that was passed down to me.And I can’t verify it.I know about the magazines in Floyd Bennett and I agree that storing in a residential area is probably erroneous I will stand corrected on that one..

    • Anonymous

      GBFD is the only volunteer FD in Brooklyn.

  • trainman

    Anonymous if you review my original statement you would see that I stated
    “I believe Gerritsen Beach was an island”.
    I do not believe nor was it my intent to speak as an historian on this subject. My objections to lowercase anonymous was his manner in responding to my entry on this website. I took it to be hostile and rude especially suggesting I should sell lemonade to the tourists. That prompted my response. Anything more I say in my defense would be redundant.

    As far as the vacant houses are concerned, I still believe that who ever owns those houses have responsibilities to their neighbors. And one responsibility would be to maintain the exterior in some manner as to not have the house stand out as an eyesore.
    There is a house where my mother lived that has been vacant for over 15 years. The children, that have inherited the house are all professionals in the medical field and for what ever reason, beyond my comprehension, have retained this house all of these years. But, here’s the difference. Every two weeks or so someone comes to the house and trims the lawn, removes any flyers/pamphlets and keeps the weeds in check. If I lived on that block, as far as I’m concerned, they could keep the house vacant for another 15 years and it wouldn’t bother me a bit. I do agree with you that some people exalt themselves as Mayor of the block and believe they know what’s best for everyone. I’m glad I don’t have one of those on my block.

    I believe in your Golden Rule also. And if more people also believed in that Rule, this would be a much better world to live in.

    P.S. I would be the last person to think you have to go to church to be a good person.

  • Dirty

    Goldens opponent is playing dirty. Walking around spewing lies. Scaring the locals. He thinks we are stupid. Beware.

  • BeachBrood

    If anyone would have listened to who actually started GB Cares becasue he loved the neighborhood and tried to make progress for the people that live here they would have taken out the permits many moons ago to keep this sh*t out in the first place. And if these piece of crap realtors wouldnt sell to this sh*t we wouldnt have to worry about it!!!!! Thats why neighborhoods go to sh*t-they let people push them out. STAY STRONG. WE BELONG….

  • Stupid

    I took a class recentlt on Real Estate. Realtors by law need to show houses to Everyone. Otherwise THEY can go to jail. It’s the homeowners responsibility to the community to accept or decline an offer. NYS sends other races to RE offices to check on them. Think about it.

    • Hymie Goldberg

      That is correct,and a Few Jewish Families as well as some Hasidum would class up the neighborhood.

  • Anonymous

    If some one requests to be shown a house they must be shown that house. They do not have to be guided to it.

  • Karen Bernard

    I hate to interrupt your very stimulating conversation. I will be in the area soon and want to see the beach at Gerretsen Beach. Is it private? Will I be able to go and see it? My 9th GGfather was Gerretsen and I’m doing some ancestry touring while in the area. Gerretsen Beach seems pretty cool. Why not tour buses? I would appreciate any reply. Thanks.

    • If your serious, I would suggest that you stop at the Nature Center on Ave. U. They have info and pics of the mill that your 9th Grandfather ran. Also, the library on Gerritsen Ave may have pics and info.I hope you enjoy your visit. The Brooklyn Historical Society is another good resource.

  • Anonymous

    you can tour g.b. on 10/31/2012, have fun

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