Breaking: Body Found at Point

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A body has been found at the point

On Thursday, August 18, 2011 at approximately 0725 hours, police officers responded to calls of a body in the water at 3078 Gerritsen Ave within the confines of the 63 precinct. Upon arrival, officers discovered a M/W/28 unconscious and unresponsive on the shore of the location. EMS responded and pronounced the aided DOA. There are no arrests at this time, ME will determine the cause of death and investigation is ongoing.

Update 11:45AM From information gathered at the scene.

Both the stabbing at channel avenue and body at the point are related incidents.

There was a bar fight involving two brothers and another group that spilled into the streets. One brother was stabbed near Everett avenue and collapsed across the street in the weeds. He was transported to a hospital and is in critical condition. The other brother was stabbed and found DOA at the point.

Update 12:20PM Police are waiting on a warrant for a person of interest on 3609 Filmore Ave between 36 and 37th

Update 2:00pm The internet has identified the body as Timothy Murray and the stabbing victim as Ryan Murray.

Update 5:00pm The 63 has arrested someone in connection with the stabbing. A warrant was issued for Samuel Edison.

This is a breaking story and will be updated as information becomes available.

Warning: The below picture may be graphic for some.

A photo has been removed at the request of the family

331 comments to Breaking: Body Found at Point

  • Divine Ms. M

    OMG,there was an ambulance and a bunch of cop cars at the end, this is scary, I live at the end and walk my dog past that spot.

  • [...] A body appears to have washed up in Gerritsen Beach near the point, according to GerritsenBeach.net. [...]

  • Anonymous

    WHAT IS GOING ON IN THE BEACH THESE DAYS… IT USED TO BE SUCH A GOOD NEIGHBORHOOD.. AND NOW IT IS GOING DOWN HILL REAL FAST.. WONDER IF THIS IS IN CONNECTION TO THE OTHER THING…

    • Gb girl

      Just wondering when gerritsenbeach was considered a good neighborhood???

      • Anonymous

        It is s good neighborhood just has a few skells

      • Anonymous

        I agree. Been here 20 years and it’s crap. Kids run wild, cops don’t enforce laws, vandalism is off the hook, stolen cars burning in the weeds, Halloween riots making main stream papers, it is pretty in passing, but lawless. Not everyone, but it only takes a few.

    • Alfie Wace

      @Anonymous: Are you SERIOUS? WHEN was it a good neighborhood? I grew up there and I swear the average life expectancy was 18 years old…there were drownings, stabbings, drug overdoses…you name it…I was SO glad to move out of there with my life and limbs in tact!

  • Anonymous

    Yea bodies only wash up in bad neighborhoods according tho the other post.

    there is a white male that fishes down there every nite.

  • Anonymous

    is it a guy or a girl?

  • resident

    This is terrible. I wouldn’t be surprised if this is a result of one of the neighborhood’s “wonderful” young… whose parents have the “no my kid!” attitude. One day it’s rocks.. and a year later a stabbing and a dead body. Probably not such a coincidence. I feel awful for this person’s family! Something like this shouldn’t happen down here!

    • Anonymous

      I would help if people down here waited for some facts it was the wonderful I wouldn’t say youth down here but it was men from 2 differnt neighborhoods. My sympthay goes out to families involved may they find some kind of peace. One way for them to find peace is not to read any comments on this site

    • true

      the youg are not allways wonderfull

    • I love our kids

      Once again, let’s bash the youth of Gerritsen Beach without fully knowing the facts about an incident. The 2 brothers were from Fillmore Ave. Who knows where the dealers were from. Just because it happened here does’nt mean their from here. Why is everybody on this blog so quick to condemn their own ?

      • Beachwalker/I love our kids too

        I’m so glad that someone agrees with me. This was a terrible tragedy, no matter what the final truth that comes out is there will be several families destroyed by it. Everyone here feels for the Murray family. What a terrible thing to have to live through and they are changed forever. My heartfelt sympathies go out to them. There is no one living here, or anywhere else that is immune to the sensless loss of a loved one. But the blaming and bashing of the kids here, the vast majority of which are really great kids has to stop. No one here denies that there are bad apples in every generations basket,in EVERY neighborhood, and it may turn out that someone here was involved but the entire neighborhood can’t be judged by that. And we all know that the majority of the bashing comes from outside, people who don’t know what they’re talking about, or who they’re talking about. They just talk.

  • Aghast!

    Two families.. Two tragedies… I pray the stabbing victim wasn’t hurt mortally and will recover from their injuries. I am so sorry for person who lost their life and was found st the point.. And pray for the families. For the ignorant moron who posts crap about the neighborhood “kids” and is quick to blame.. For ur ignorant info.. No neighborhood is immune to violence.. And noone is guilty until proven so…. Moron

  • anonymous

    …as usual on this site, some of the above comments are jumping to conclusions without having any facts whatsover. And that is irresponsible and ignorant, but shouldn’t suprise me as per what I’ve read out here in regards to past srories. Why don’t you do the SMART thing and wait till the 63rd pct. concludes their investigation before blowing your own assumptions out of your asses!

  • Anonymous

    The men were brothers

  • anonymous

    They stated that it started at a bar. Probably the BANTRY BAR that should of been closed years ago. BAD NEWS BAR.

    • Anonymous

      Nooo get ur info correct!!! It didn’t start at the Bantry Bar!!!

      • anonymous

        guess your one of the lossers that hang out in there. Just saying that Bantry is a bad place to hang out.

        • Anonymous

          No u shmuck, I don’t, don’t assume just saying ,get the facts first!!!! There was plenty of cameras down the block, let the cops do there job!

          • anonymous

            yes let the cops do their jobs but Bantry’s is BAD NEWS.

          • Anonymous

            Actually, thanks to the little darlings of GB screwing with the cameras, 3 of them were not positioned to pick up the fight. Only the two cameras on the ends.

      • Anonymous

        The bantry bar is low life bar so it probably started there with the tuff guys from that neighborhood

        • Anonymous

          Your mother must been tough guy, lol!! With three people at the bar on a wednesday night!

        • Beachwalker

          Probably this, probably that. Your talking out of your ass. I passed by last night after 1 am and NOTHING was going on at the Bantry. There were police all over the ave and NONE at the Bantry. Stop using this to make all your nasty assumptions about our young people, they need a place to hang out with their friends, play some pool, big deal. It so far appears that NONE OF THEM had anything to do with this. It appears that both the victims and perp were outsiders. So stop with the usual Beach bashing and wait for the FACTS to come out.

          • Anonymous

            Is the Bantry such a great place that you need to defend it? I hope they close it down, along with Amici’s and the tattoo parlor. Whether or not this crime originated from any of these places last night doesn’t matter because ultimately these places only bring in dirt bags to a neighborhood that has already met it’s quota. There are good people in this neighborhood that deserve better than this. Good, hard-working people. We need to clean out the trash and take back our neighborhood!

          • Shea Holmes

            Anonymous is right. I was on the Avenue three weeks ago the first time in about four years. These three places are dives and make the neighborhood look cheap,and yes places like this do bring in a bad element.

    • Anonymous

      Ya and the person of intrest is supposedly a young man named Sam Edision, not from Gerritsen but from MARINE PARK!!! And junky friends!!!! We have enough problems in this neighborhood keep everyone else’s rif RAF out

      • Concerned Resident

        The crazy thing is, they’re all friends. Have been for years.

      • Anonymous

        A convicted sex offender

      • Anonymous

        GB is the only neighborhood I have ever seen that only wants THEIR people there. Other neighborhoods thrive on an influx of people to shop in their stores, drink in their bars, etc etc.
        A young man is DEAD and his brother is holding on in a hospital… their mother and family must be devastated… and so many of you just want to point the finger at this bar, that bar and pull the well at least they aren’t from our neighborhood card. WHO CARES what neighborhood they are from… There was a loss of life in YOUR neighborhood.
        And do you know that after it happened YOUR neighborhood kids were walking the streets and riding the bikes at ONE AM??

        • Anonymous

          My point in pointing out that GB kids were out roaming the neighborhood at 1 am is that this situation COULD have been even more horrible… there could have been more life lost.
          So think about that while you are all pointing the finger.

        • Anonymous

          Who cares if neighborhood kids were riding their bikes at 1 am in the summertime. They didn’t do nething wrong. I dont think ppl are pulling the their not from GB card bc they dont care they r only stating the facts so ppl will stop bashing neighborhood kids who clearly have no involvement. GB is not how it was back in the day when outsiders weren’t welcomed if it was we prob wouldn’t have all the problems we do. It is a fact that the dealers of “hard” drugs in the neighborhood are never from the neighborhood. As a frequenter of the neighborhood bars who isn’t a whore and doesn’t do drugs I would just like to state that GB is a wonderful neighborhood w a great sense of community and no neighborhood is perfect and their will of course b lost souls. So instead of being predjudice and judging a whole group by the actions of a few mayb u should look at your “perfect” self in the mirror and figure out a way to get involved and help the troubled few. For all u GB bashers let’s not forget about all of the fundraisers done for cancer, cystic fibrosis, girl scouts, boy scouts, little league and all the other wonderful things GB is involved in. Not to mention all the stand up law abiding citizens who pay their taxes and do the right thing who reside there. My thoughts and prayers are w these poor boys family and I hope the police catch this perptrator.

          • Anonymous

            You obviously didn’t pay attention to what I wrote, and assumed I was bashing neighborhood children. Maybe 14 and 15 year olds don’t belong riding their bikes outside no matter what season it is at 1 or 2 in the morning… however with 2 stabbings going on, I was pointing out that a LOCAL kid COULD have been harmed being that they were out roaming around. Wrong place wrong time… I never SAID they did anything wrong (although I disagree with teens being out at that time and asking me for cigarettes all night long)
            Yes GB residents do support a variety of charities… what exactly does that have to do with anything posted here?
            A 28 year old man is DEAD and his brother is in critical condition… the finger pointing needs to stop.

          • Anonymous

            Who sees 14 year olds riding their bikes at 1 am? I come home from work at that time every night and NEVER see kids out. I see 20 somethings out and that isn’t abnormal in the summer. It seems people imagine alot of this crazy crap they post about, just to have something to say. Or maybe your just a bad judge of age? Maybe they just look that young to you? Sometimes old people have a difficult time judging the age of other people. It’s like people talking about underage ‘kids’ in the bars. They may look that young to you when your old, but 21 IS young but legal.

          • Anonymous

            Some of you people are really too much… I have a teenager, I can judge age… But let’s attack the person who points out the kids were out there, instead of the parents who ALLOW them to be out there. I don’t know where you are coming from when you come home from work, but try driving with your eyes OPEN.

          • Anon

            Perfectly said!!! GB is a tightknit community & nobody can tear that apart. Other neighborhoods are jealous of what we have, so we have to just take it from where it comes from… & where the nonsense is coming from. Not to mention we have the #1 school in all of Brooklyn… Anyway this is the best post I’ve read on here. Very well said

          • School Daze

            If it’s true that Gerritsen Beach has the #1 school in all of Brooklyn, most of the kids that reside there must attend schools in other areas, because I’ve never seen more collective illiteracy in the 200 or more comments and replies than I’ve seen submitted by this particular group of scholars. You can get mad, you can fire back, but good lord it’s true. It’s also precisely why kids go astray, don’t get decent jobs and fall back on crime. Everyone also knows that those bars are the breeding ground. Just examine the clientele. It’s all of those “students” all grown up and ready to kill. I live near one of the suspects. It makes my blood run cold to say that, but without those bars on Gerritsen Ave., this crap never happens, dispute it all you want!

          • anonymous

            School Daze : It’s not the bars that are the problem..It is the liberal crap that is shoved down our throats daily about why kids go astray..The problem starts with not being able to control your own family..Mess with your kid and they call 911, and file a complaint..The drug problem is way out of control. What are we having, turf wars like Mexico? I lived here when there was a Bar on every Street and nothing this bad ever took place..”Falling Back” on crime is just a liberial excuse for bad behavior..going back 50 years..It made no sense then and makes no sense now..YOUR PROBLEM IS DRUGS,DRUGS AND MORE DRUGS..

          • ?

            THAT IS THE TRUTH… and truth be told drugs are found everwhere not just in gerritsen beach.

          • Yes drugs are found everywhere in brooklyn, but racism still exists in gerritsen beach,truth be told!!!

          • ?

            what does racism have to do with this …all parties involved were of the same race…besides the fact that rascism excists everywhere not just in GB… oh and btw GB has had and continues to have a number of different racial groups living here..yes its true that its perdominitly white but there are residents here of other racial backgrounds

          • School Daze

            ‘Round & round we go!

          • GBgirl

            First of all, more than 80% of these comments have been written by Marine Park residents. Notice all the “your neighborhood” and “your bars” and “your kids” comments?! Another thing is this is a blog, not a college essay about to be graded for grammar and spelling… Please! People get pissed & just type w/o fixing. Is that all you could say about that? Really? Lol in that case… THANK YOU

          • Anonymous

            So you’re basically bringing up the old adage “Alcohol is the root of all evil”.

        • anonymous

          Try going to Bed-Stuy or East New York and see if they want you hanging out there.

    • Anonymous

      The Bantey is a cesspit. I wonder how much they paid for that A in their window.

      • Anonymous

        THERES NO REASON FOR EVERYONE TO KEEP BLASTING THE BANTRY BAR, IM NOT SAYING ITS THE BEST BAR IN THE WORLD BUT IT HAS BEEN SAID NUMEROUS TIMES BY POLICE THAT THE BANTRY HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH THE TERRIBLE TRAGEDY SO WHY IS EVERYONE STILL BASHING IT, GET OVER IT!

        • Enough

          Where exactly do you get your information? It has been said numerous times by the police to WHO? YOU? I am not saying Bantry had anything to do with it or who was there that night, but I am not ruling out anything I do not have personal information on either… and I am for sure not taking YOUR word on anything Anonymous.

  • John

    The brothers were from Mill Basin per the cops, now we pray the aggressors aren’t GB residents, seems like a long shot…neighborhood bar, body dropped at the point…What a shame, this poor mother of these brothers.

    • Anonymous

      Why does it matter where the aggressors are from??? Pray for the soul of the deceased the life of the critically injured male n their families not for the lowlife n what neighborhood he hales from!!!!

  • So sad

    I feel for the families of ALL involved.

    • anonymous

      i cant beleive something like this would happen in the neighborhood we all no and love!!!!! most of the people that live here, grew up here. i did!!!!!!!!

  • Anonymous

    ok so they are saying that Timmy murray is the man found at the point..which is sad..however was his brother the person stabbed on the avenue or was it Timmy and he was brought to the point? I am very confused..all I know is that regradless of the details it is a very sad and unfortunate situation…makes you re-think just how “wonderful” Gerritsen Beach really is. May Timmy Rest In Peach

  • anonymous

    Timmy Murray is the person who was found at the point, his brother Ryan is the person in the hospital. Cops arrested a person of interest in Marine Park just a while ago.

  • Anonymous

    The kid who was stabbed was named Ryan

  • John

    The victims nor the accused are residents, seems random…the neighborhood is still safe!

  • Beachwalker

    The ‘victims’ were from Mill Basin and the ‘person of interest’ is from Marine Park. Interesting. (The old Gerrittsen Beach motto: It’s a nice place to live, but I wouldn’t want to visit.) When the teens here try and tell people that alot of troublemakers come here from elsewhere to start trouble or engage in illegal activities outside of their own neighborhoods, people call them liars. It happened with the grafitti, (sunset park) and many other times. Maybe it’s time for the good people here and the cops to start listening to them. That’s not to say that we don’t have our own problems and troubled kids, drug problems, etc. But we don’t need the riff raff from surrounding neighborhoods coming here because of our legendary lack of police presence, thinking that they can get away with anything because no one recognizes them. The thing wth the kids here when they do wrong is that everyone, or someone recognizes them. The full story on this remains to be seen, and my heart goes out to the family that is living this nightmare, sadder still if they were from the same family, brothers. Terrible.

  • Anonymous

    simply look outside your yard in the morning after a bunch of lovely Beach kids are hanging out on your car.. the evidence is right there empty drug bags, used condoms and broken beer bottles..

    • Beachwalker

      I have NEVER in 50+ years here ever seen ‘empty drug bags, used condoms, or broken beer bottles outside my house or anyone elses. Are you trying to have people believe people are having sex in the middle of the street? Are you insane? Further on there is a post about older women peeing in the street in broad daylight. Again, NEVER saw this in my life. Where do you people get this crap? What do you gain by making crap like this up and posting it here? What is wrong with YOU???

      • Anonymous

        what do u think goes on in the weeds at night ive seen many used condoms n beer bottles n drugs at the point n at skate park theres mattreses in the back weeds and prostitusion u must think all the teens and kids r angles there not trust me i know

  • Anonymous

    You fuc*kers in GB turned a blind eye to the bantry for years! It is a drug store and nothing more. You just sat back and said “not my kid”, you let the 61 do whatever they wanted, and you let your drug problem get out of control and now someone possibly two are dead.

    What are you going to do about it?

    • Anonymous

      U can’t blame one bar, what about Amici’s, that’s where they were hanging out! Motorcycle gangs, an they even have a stripper pole in there!!! Who cares about the bars on the avenue, there are two lives lost!!!!

      • Anonymous

        THEY MOST CERTAINLY WERE NOT AT AMICIS!! YOU OBVIOUSLY HAVE NO ACTUAL INFORMATION AND ARE JUST TRYING TO PLACE BLAME ELSEWHERE.

        • Anonymous

          Actually it didn’t happen at any of the neighborhood bars!!! Don’t u think that if it did, that the cops would be all over the bars

          • Anonymous

            No one knows why it happened yet… the actual fight was on Gerritsen Avenue at Everett… The ones who stabbed the brothers ran out of the fields across the street.

          • Anonymous

            LOL, like how they were all over the Beach on Halloween?

      • Anonymous

        And why would you say you can’t blame one bar and then in the same breath try to blame Amicis? Hypocrite

      • River Rat

        Hey Asshole!!! Number one there is hardling any bikers at Amici’s anymore due to the low life kids that live in the beach. Number two there was no one at Amici’s last night and the stripper pole is for your mother she was there last week working for pennies. Number three when the bikers hung out at Amici’s there was never any problems. So get your facts straight shit head. At least at Amici’s they dont serve to minors and they never have any problems.

        • Anonymous

          Well said! Frigging narrow minded idiots dont like a bar because “bikers hang there” or “they have a stripper pole” None of which is illegal and there’s never trouble at amici’s. On the other hand, Bantry is a pretty seedy spot. Just drop in any evening and you will not have to wonder why there’s 8 people next door in Beach Bar while there’s 2 skells in bantry. I saw a guy hit the bartender one night because he felt he was owed a buy-back in bantry. the place is a hell hole, period!

        • Glass Houses

          What do you mean that bikers don’t hang out there anymore because of the kids here? Are you trying to say that the bikers are afraid of the kids?!? Really? I never saw anything wrong with a bike club hanging out there, it was just a problem for people trying to sleep in the surrounding houses. But if your going to throw stones at the other neighborhood bars, let’s talk about yours. Everyone knows about the gambling and card games. And a stripper pole, really? Maybe not illegal in itself but hiring a whore to “perform” is. Unless she is getting a w-2. Do you really think you should be throwing around accusations at other people?

    • Anonymous

      IT DIDNT HAPPEN AT THE BANTRY WHAT THE F*** ARE U TALKING ABOUT

      • Anonymous

        Nope it didn’t happen at Bantry, a bunch of junk boxes, from another neighborhood, trying to give our neighborhood a bad name, it’s sad two lives, and their poor parents!

        • Anonymous

          You do realize that you made it sound like these kids came there and killed someone in GB just to give GB a bad name… Do you realize how heartless and cruel that makes you sound? SOMEONE DIED and SOMEONE ELSE MIGHT DIE!! Get over your poor GB attitude and feel something for these kids and their family and all who knew them!!

        • Gb girl

          This neighborhood already has a bad name it doesn’t need any outsiders to do that…. Besides heard that mp kid was let go…

      • Anonymous

        The Bantry Bar is a drug den,every one knows that!

  • Anonymous

    EVERYONE NEEDS TO GET THEIR FACTS STRAIGHT FIRST! THIS DID NOT HAPPEN AT THE BANTRY BAR SO STOP HATING! EVERYONE WHO IS ASSUMING GET UR STORIES STRAIGHT SO RIDICULOUS ALL EVERYONE CARES ABOUT IS HOW “THE BANTRY” WAS INVOLVED YET THERE WAS A MURDER AND A STABBING THAT SHOULD BE THE POINT OF INTEREST. I WAS AT THE BAR LAST NIGHT AND NOT 1 THING HAPPENED AT THE BANTRY THE COPS DROVE PAST THE BANTRY ALL NIGHT LONG AND IF AND WHEN THEY SPOKE TO THE STABBED VICTIM AND HE WOULD HAVE SAID IT HAPPENED AT THE BANTRY DONT YOU THINK THEY WOULD HAVE QUESTIONED ANY ONE OF US STANDING OUT THERE I MEAN REALLY? AND FOR ALL YOU BANTRY BAR HATERS OUT THERE GET A LIFE!

    • Anonymous

      can you turn off caps locks?

    • Anonymous

      Ryan, who was the victim of the stabbing found on the avenue was semi-concious and the only info he gave was his first name. He never mentioned where he was stabbed, where he was, why he was stabbed or gave any information about his brother.

      • Anonymous

        actually on the internet news reports it says he got stabbed across from the soccer fields not the bar

        • Anonymous

          He was stabbed near the corner of Everett and Gerritsen Avenue… Good Samaritans watched him stumble across the Avenue towards Devon and collapse not far from the bus stop. His white shirt was covered in blood and they called 911 and took care of him until the ambulance came.
          People who were not there really need to stop spreading false information.

          • Anonymous

            And when I said he didn’t mention where he was stabbed, I meant on his body not the actual location. How many times he was stabbed did not become clear until some of the blood was cleaned off him.

    • Anonymous

      and so everyone know the police aren’t even questing the “BANTRY BAR” because it DID NOT start or happen there! It is a tragedy what happened to those kids I grew up with Timmy I feel terrible but everyone is so caught up on the Bantry its totally disgusting

    • Anonymous

      I couldn’t care less about the Bantry or any other bar for that matter, those day’s are long over for me. What did interest me in your post is that you stated the police were up and down the avenue all night, people were standing outside the bar and the police never talked to anyone to see if they heard or seen anything. there is a stabbing victom laying in the grass about a 100 yards away and they didn’t ask anyone any questions? NICE POLICE WORK!!! I didn’t know the victoms, but my heart and soul goes out to theif family. I hope justice is served on this one.

  • Gb girl

    Was the Stabbed victim concious when he was found? Wondering why he was found around 1 am but the body was found in the morning

  • Anonymous

    Timmy Murray was a good guy, regardless as to what happened – RIP & hopefully Ryan (his brother) who’s in critical condition makes it. Whoever is caught for these crimes will be punished. My condolences to the Murray family & friends

  • Gb girl

    Eveyobe seem to foget that there was a deadly massacre by the point in the 90′s with a gb resident still incarcerated for it… So was the neighborhood so great then???

  • Bobby

    I was at the bantry bar, it probably happened there.

  • Unknown

    a friend of mine seen them both in the bantry last night so everyone really needs to get their facts straight

  • Leanne

    No one even cares about the bantry or the trash that hangs out there….you “Anonymous” are the only one who seems to care more about people talking badly about that place rather than being concerned with the real issue. The victims and their family are what matters here.

  • Anonymous

    THEY WERE AT THE BANTRY BUT DIDNT HAPPEN INSIDE OF THE BANTRY. JESUS CHRIST WHO GIVES A FLYING SHIT ABOUT THAT BAR!!! MY BEST FRIENDS BROTHER IS DEAD AND ONE IS IN CRITICAL CONDITION…

    NO ONE WILL EVER KNOW EXACTLY WHAT HAPPENED, LEAVE IT ALONE AND LET THERE FAMILIES MORN. HAVE SOME CONSIDERATION.

    RIP –TIM , WE LOVE U!!

  • Anonymous

    RIP Timothy Murray

  • Anonymous

    You all do realize that a life was lost and another person is barely hanging on right? Its a little disturbing that in the midst of all this tragedy people are on this site bashing neighborhood bars. Whether they were at the bantry or amicis or any other bar it really doesn’t matter, what matters is that a murder took place in our neighborhood. People on this site and in this neighborhood need to get their shit in perspective. R.I.P Timmy <3

  • Gb girl

    Who were the other 2 that were with him?!

  • Anonymous

    i feel soo bad for this poor kids mother

  • Anonymous

    Well, it’s always sad to hear about someone passing on in such a senseless manner (if, in fact, he was murdered as it appears). So, I’ll say this: I didn’t know the victims, but I know many people that did, so I do feel for them and this man’s family and friends. I’ve lost a friend suddenly, and it just sucks.

    I didn’t know the apparent suspect (Edison), although I know of him and haven’t heard many flattering things about him, either. If he is responsible, at least he will be off the streets for a long, long time. Probably long overdue.

  • Anonymous

    Okay reply is not working for me today… to the person who posted #
    Anonymous
    August 18, 2011 at 2:28 pm · Reply

    A convicted sex offender

    What exactly are you talking about??

  • f---- the beach

    burn down the bantry bar where nothing but low life scumbags & whores hang out and 3/4 of the trouble in the beach disappear….every time something happens in the area that shithole place is mentioned,, none of the other three bars have those problems…maybe the cops should look at the drug dealing owner,,,,,

  • old school gb

    The bantry bar is disgusting! It has long been known as a drug den going back to the days it was named the gather inn. Any night u walk by u can see some of gerritsen beach superstars. The place is filled with coke heads, pill heads, crackheads, dustmuffins and degenerate alcoholics. That place had been nothing but trouble and does absolutely no good for this neighborhood! I wish some one would blow that place up and make GB a better place!

    • anonymous

      actually, when it first became the bantry bar it was not a drug den. a LOT of people in gerritsen enjoyed the christmas, halloween and st pattys parties. it only started getting run down when the owners colm meehan and brian kelly sold it. so get your facts straight.

      • Anonymous

        As Long as the people that run the bar get their share they don’t care where the money comes from, shame it’s Drug money!!!

        • Anonymous

          WHAT THE FU** are u people talking about!!! Enough, the bars have nothing to do with what happen!!!! Jesus what do u think they do in a bar open bibles and pray!! The Beach bar owner has been arrested for gambling, an he is the lead priest! Amici owner lost his city job for selling drugs, and the Bantry owner beat up a well known king pen!! OPEN UR EYEs PEOPLE, every bar isn’t a CHURCH!!! Don’t just BASH one!!!

    • Anonymous

      U realize that the name of the article in which you are posting comments to is for a body found at the point right? How and what exactly does the bantry have to do with any of that? Ur old school gb so i would like to think u are an adult…maybe u should try acting like one. U don’t like the bantry don’t go there..its simple really

    • Anonymous

      IAnd again, what does the Bantry Bar have two do with what happened a block away? instead of wasting time on typing about the bars, say a prayer for the kid fighting for his life!!!!!!!!!!!!

    • Anonymous

      Don’t u think it’s a lil extreme, by saying blow up the Bantrey Bar, ur preaching no violence in the neighborhood, but in another breath, u wanna blow the bar up, stupid ass!!

    • Beachwalker/The Doors

      ‘People are strange when your a stranger, faces look ugly when your alone, women seem wicked when your unwanted.’ It seems to me that alot of the people who post about The Bantry, The old Gatherinn, or any of the other bars just are lonely, have no concept of what it is like to go and enjoy a few beers with people that you have known all your life. I love the occasions where I can join the after work crowd at any of the neighborhood bars, have a few beers and a few laughs. Or egt the time to go out on the weekend and see all the people I have known and loved all my life, catch up on what’s new. Sure drugs are available at bars, also at schools and parks. That doesn’t mean that every person in them does them. But I guess when your walking your miserable self by, and take that quick peek in, you imagine the worst. But that’s all it is. Your own fears and overactive imagination.

  • Dora Love

    This is a trajedy and sad for everyone involved and their families. It is ennoying how everyone is posting comments about their safety. Youre not going to b walking down the street and get stabbed. GB is a safe neighborhood unfortunately when people are drinking and at times doing drugs they have issues, fights and like this incident tragedies. Hopefully there will b justice for these victims and let’s not forget who the victims are.

  • Divine Ms. M

    Let’s stop speculating, let the police do their job, for whatever reason a young man is dead, he’s dead on a beach near where I walk my dog, where people spend the day swimming or on jet skis, whatever. I will not be able to look at that beach again knowing that his last moments were on that beach at 28 years old and his young life is over. Who cares what bar they were at, it doesn’t matter and to bicker is stupid. I have lived in GB for 23 years and it’s a safe place to live, I can walk my dog at all hours and feel safe, there’s good and bad in the best of neighborhoods, let’s stop putting Gerritsen Beach down.

  • Anonymous

    if it was someone from gerritsen they wouldnt be so stupid to leave a body at the point. they Burry it in the back weeds with the rest of them.

  • ???????????????

    Every neighborhood has their share of hoodlums, so much happens in every other neighborhood yet we are pointed out when this happens here. What about the Park Tavern that has little kids roaming around inside? Everyone stop bashing on GB, you wished you lived here.

  • Kdon

    Who cares there all losers.

  • You know youre from marine park when they find your stabbed corpse on a beach in GB.

  • Anonymous

    This guy is a sex offender and a suspected murderer. I hope the hang his ass out to dry. If anyone has info call the crime stopper and help get his ass away from your family.

    I didnt know the victims or suspect but I hope their families get justice,

  • Anonymous

    Its all a battle of Drug dealing “TURF”!!!!! Our kids are dieing because they are fighting against each other to sell their drugs!! and is it true that “Wee Man” Is one of the ppl arrested for the stabbing? This is so sad. To Hell with all the Bar Bull okay ppl! There is a Mother & Father that now have to bury 1 son and 1 in critical condition. thats whats important

  • They found him with his pants around his ankles and a bottle stuck inside his butthole! Those bastages will pay!!

  • I know everyone involved is from mp but i still want to point out that GB is full of herbs and druggies.

    • Anonymous

      And I’d like to point out that you are on the same exact level as the people involved in the murder.. pathetic.

    • phil

      i know everyone involved IS NOT FROM MP. it was gb skells being gb skells to the fullest.

      • Glass Houses

        Really phil? The guy they arrested lived on Fillmore and 36th, a registered sex offender, no less. Isn’t that Marine Park?

      • GBgirl

        You’re wrong!! And how do you feel now?! Marine Park ppl came
        To GB to sell drugs to more Marine Park ppl! And what do u know? Marine Park ppl murdered MP ppl! So how do u feel MP person?!! Had nothing to do with GB except being the place for the drug deal… Thought they were safe (for next
        Time just know every store & bar has surveillance cameras) so no you’re not safe dealing in GB stay in Park Tavern.

        • Anonymous

          Cause god knows noone on gb goes if sells drugs… The angels that they are!!

          • phil

            marine park people were detained questioned and released. the two males from gerristen beach are still in custody. now i know that doesnt mean it is the gerritsen people but if you are question while your home is being searched then released im pretty sure that states innocent, oh yeah and the fact the mp people have alibis and the gerristen people cant hold a straight story.

  • Timsfriend

    Most of you people seem ignorant! Who cares what bar! Who cares what neighbourhood! My friend died and his brother is dire straits. His mom has to bury a son and worry about another. The parents of the kids who stabbed the brothers have to face what their children put them through. You guys sound stupid with this bar and neighbourhood stuff!!!!

  • Anonymous

    I moved to GB 21 years ago and I really like it here. Has the neighborhood changed? Yes, to some degree, but what neighborhood doesn’t change? I grew up in Sunset Park and in a ten year span from age 10 to 20 I saw 6th avenue from 50th street to 55th street turn into a war zone. All the housing there was taken over by gangs and all the people moved out. In a 5 block span buildings were abandoned, bricked up and used as storage for weapons for the gangs. Granted there are some bad eliments here, but thank your lucky stars you live here.

  • Anonymous

    heard it was Amici where the action took place. You know the where methhead whore panhandlers narrow gerritsen ave to shakedown drivers for charity(meth)…. At a back door card game(that doesn’t exist…wink wink). the blame is being put on the WRONG lowlifebar. Fake ass Sons of Anarchy

  • Anonymous

    The Hell with the Bars!!! Has nothing to do with the fact that this family is going thru hell right now, as well as the families of the suspects! Our kids are killing each other over Drug Territory!!!!!!! This is INSANE!!!!!! And Is it true that “WeeMan” was arrested for the stabbing as well?

  • Anonymous

    timmy was one of my very very good friends he didnt deserve any of this!!! the kid would give the shirt off his back, the last dollar in his pocket to anybody he was generally a great person and everyone who knows him knows that!! he didnt deserve any of this and neither did his brother!! i hope who did it rots for the rest of their life! timmy, u will be missed so much by so many people sleep with the angels big bro =(

  • Anonymous

    The Hell with the Bars!!! Has nothing to do with the fact that this family is going thru hell right now, as well as the families of the suspects! Our kids are killing each other over Drug Territory!!!!!!! This is INSANE!!!!!! And Is it true that “WeeMan” was arrested for the stabbing as well?

  • anonymous

    i never seen so many white kids that think they are bloods and crips until i moved in this neighborhood, these irish kids act more like black hoodlums than the actual black hoodlums, theyre like animals, especially in gerritsen beach, that whole neighborhood should burn to the ground

  • Anonymous

    Let the police determine who did what!!

  • Anonymous

    FYI.. the police are surrounding the home of the accuser waiting for a warrant as I write this.

  • Anonymous

    They were in the Bantry. They weren’t in the bantry. Yes they were.No they weren’t. How can the same people be in the same bar and have totally different opinions on who was there and who wasn’t? Too much drinking on a weeknight maybe? Is the night a bit of a blur? No wonder the police can’t solve anything here, no one can give a straight answer. It’s sad to think that people drinking in a bar at 1 or 2 am would be able to give an accurate discription of events, if even asked. If you people had to be a witness on this one, the perps would get off scott free.

  • anonymous

    BANTRY BAR IS THE ROOT OF ALL EVIL – EVERYONE KNOWS IT – THE OWNER – A GB NATIVE AND FORMER LAW ENFORCEMENT – SHOULD BE ASHAMED OF HIS CONTRIBUTION TO THE NEIGHORHOOD -MAYBE IF HE HAD KIDS OF HIS OWN HE WOULD GIVE A CRAP – MAYBE ITS STILL OPEN BECAUSE OF THE CONNECTIONS TO LAW ENFORCEMENT – IAB

  • Enough

    People need to stop arguing over bars and neighborhoods, the bottom line is 1 man is dead and another is hospitalized due to another human beings actions. It shouldnt matter where they are from because ur going to tell me that people dont go to other neighborhoods to hangout with friends. Gb and Mp are both good neighborhoods and just like any other neighborhood there are bad apples and should not reflect either neighborhood as a whole. It shouldnt be about neighborhood issues with each other.If someone wants to hurt another person they will do it no matter where they are. We should be paying respect to the family who has been affected and stop the bs.

  • Anonymous

    I don’t think anyone is “bashing” a bar, nor is their intent to put more emphasis on the bar than on the tragedy. I think people are simply stating the theory that this is not unexpected considering the element hanging out at the bar everyone is speculating this started at. The interesting thing to think about is weather true or not why would so many people on this blog assume it was that specific bar ? One must think this negative association comes from somewhere. If many people from the beach associate it with problems they may be on to something. Obviously those that go there are going to defend it. On the other hand it could be a widespread well coordinated conspiracy against a small neighborhood bar. Sometimes those you associate with leads you to trouble, unfortunately the trouble can be devastating.

  • Blank

    Of course, another incident involving the bar on Gerritsen Ave. That place needs to be closed down, because it’s nothing but trouble. It’s really a disgusting place, and I don’t know why people go there. It needs to be shut down. Let the people who want to do that type of stuff go to another neighborhood. Enough is enough..

  • WOWWWW

    You people are so DISRESPECTFUL!!! When someone dies…YOU BAND TOGETHER! Not cause words of destruction & Hatred!! I am so disgusted! My heart is with the family & friends!! Some of U people NEED HELP!!

    • GB Boy

      When should we band together, when no one dies? Get rid of those bucket o’ blood bars and get rid of the riff raff. Like rats & roaches, cut off their food supply and they’ll be gone. Jesus most other Brooklynites don’t even know GB exists. Would this crime have been committed in this place, without places to congregate, get sh** faced and sell drugs? Wake up!

      PS: The 63rd Pct covers too wide an area. It’s on friggin’ Brooklyn Ave. between Aves. I & J. It’s in another time zone! Close the Bantry, open a precinct, things would quiet down in ol’ GB in one damn hurry!

  • L

    Sam edison, your life is over. Jail for the rest of your life

  • Anonymous

    this is pethedic people are dying yet everyone on this site wants to bash bars fckn idiots if you shut down every bar in newyork these problems would still be here wake the fck up people

    • Blank

      Not really. There are some really safe bars where people just get together to have drinks. The Bantry is just trouble. You take your life in your hands walking into there.

  • anonomos

    you people are pethedic noone is saying anything about what happened lets blame it on the bars fckn asshole people are dieing wake the fck up oh it aint your kid so who gives a fck

  • cj mom

    Who cares about the bars in Gerritsen or any where for that matter; There are 3 different parts to a story- the right one the wrong one and what really happened,( and what really happened is someone was murdered and someone was stabbed and left to die and some other person is to blame!) and I am sure that everyone at this point in time is trying to protect their lively hood or investments in a neighborhood business. But that is not the issue at steak; The issues that need to be addressed are as followed; 1. Why these two brothers were targeted. 2. Who did it. 3. What happened that was so bad, that this shit happened. 4. Why no one at these accused business didn’t see anything or witnessed anything or reported anything.. Is it because the two men were not from Gerritsen beach? It really doesn’t matter!!! What matters is that everyone get their f’n shit together and speak up if you know something! This is a reflection on your neighborhood, regardless of if someone from the neighborhood was involved or not

  • Anonymous

    IM NOT SAYING IT WAS AT THE BANTRY BUT THE PEOPLE THERE WERE OUTSIDE AND WERE LAUGHING THATS GOOD ENOUGH FOR ME TO CALL ALL OF THEM DIRTBAG LOW LIFES…….ATTENTION TO GERRISTEN BEACH, LOOK HARDER YOU HAVE A HUGE METH PROBLEM RISING. AND MARINE PARK IS TO BLAME FOR THIS? AHAHAHAHA AT LEAST THE YOUTH OF MARINE PARK KNOW WHERE TO STOP. MURDER COME ON…MP KIDS ACTUALLY WENT TO SCHOOL AND KNOW WHAT LIFE IN PRISON MEANS.

    • Leanne

      You do realize that the suspected murderer is from Marine Park, right? I hope you also realize that, so far, not one GB resident has been named as being part of this malicious crime? It was the “youth” of Marine Park that you are putting on this disgusting pedestal who are to blame. Utterly shameful and disgusting.

      • tommy

        suspected murderer is from marine park? THE MURDER’S NAME ON FACEBOOK IS SOMER TIME aka WEEMAN. he is from gerristen beach you dumb assholes. stop defending your useless neighborhood, then burn it down. your all idiots the cops need to grab one low grade drug dealer cut him a deal, then he will rat out everyone and guess what it is allllllll gerristen beach goons.

        • Enough already

          How about we wait and see who gets arrested for the crimes committed before anyone starts finger pointing at individuals?
          Unless you are trying to make a bad situation worse by accusing someone there is no proof had anything to do with this?

    • Anonymous

      The youth of MP know where to stop you say? Is that when a neighbor shoots at them from a window? Let’s face it, you don’t escape the drug problems by living a mile away or even by moving to another state. Drugs, especially the rise in Meth, Angel Dust and Heroin are National problems. I shudder to think back at the bad heroin years in the Beach and in the whole city. I hate that it looks like we are heading back there. Don’t kid yourself, no neighborhood or family is immune to this. There is very little community support for kids at risk, schools don’t do drug prevention/education anymore. But they teach sex ed and hand out condoms. Programs to help/support/educate and keep teens busy and focused are all for minorities. Summer jobs programs, all for minorities. City funded after school/sports/community centers where kids can get off the street and DO something are all in Bed Sty, E Flatbush, Bushwick. We need to push for there to be positive support and activities for our kids. I know people are going to say, ‘it’s up to the parents’. But some parents just aren’t up to the task, and some are just too busy trying to keep their jobs and homes. Some can’t afford the high prices of organized sports programs that would keep their kids out of trouble.The very kids who are most at risk. We shouldn’t, as a community, just leave them to their own devices. Why are NONE of the area schools open at night for some basketball, homework help, anything that would give these kids something positive to do? Why do all of our tax dollars go to support programs like these in other neighborhoods but we get nothing for our kids? The best way to keep kids out of trouble is to keep them busy and positive about their future and themselves.

  • Anonymous

    For once on this website it would be nice for the comments to go with the story. The story is body found at point and stbbing at laundry mat yesa they were both related stories that as far as I can tell have nothing to do with the Bantry Im sure if they were there the police would’ve been in there. If you don’t like the Bantry then make your own bashing page and heres an idea don’t be anonymous, you all have so much to say under that name so how many of you say hello to the Bantry owner or his mother and family?? A poor mother has to bury her son maybe 2 it has nothing to do with the Bantry none of them from the neighborhood yet everyone is still bashing the kids, the neighborhood and the bars.. these were grown men. As a mother my heart goes out to her may she find the strength to get through this.

  • Anonymous

    all of you idiots make judgements …kids at at 1:00 walking and riding bikes – they were on the way home from saying goodbye to a kid leaving for college and they are not 9 years old they are 17 and 18 young adults – most of them working more hours than the white trash that don’t work and are parents taking the easy way out with food stamps and anything else you can get from the gov’t or city for free
    stop judging everything and everybody – get your own “house” in order before you pass judgement

    • Anonymous

      On their way home? So which way do they live, because they rode up and down the avenue trying to bum cigarettes from adults… I am so glad you know what every child in GB was doing last night and early this morning. Do you see them in your crystal ball? How do you know exactly which kids were being referred to?
      How about we keep the discussion where it belongs… on the kid who lost his life and the kid fighting for his in the hospital and stop trying to make it about you protecting your kids who were trying to get smokes from having a sullied reputation… A mother is MOURNING her son and sitting by the bedside of her other son.
      And YOU want to pick on someone who was grateful that YOUR kids were safe??

  • Cathy

    I am a little confused here. If there were two men attacked, one fatally so and the other is in critical, how did ONE person do that? I realize that Samuel Edison is on the sex offenders list, but I don’t think he has superpowers.

    • Anonymous

      Because it was not ONE person… they have only found ONE person so far… the fight was a whole group of people jumping 2 brothers.

    • anonymous

      So, you don’t believe one person, whether he did or didn’t in this case. can kill more than one person at a time? WTF.

      • Cathy

        I just don’t think its likely, and considering the fact that Sam Edison is only 5’4″ I dont see where he could have taken down two grown me without an accomplice. Your WTF was rude and not necessary.

  • s

    At CJ MOM, you do realize that the Ryan is alive because the patrons of one of the bar call 911 and reported what happened down the block. That bar would be Amici. So when you say that no one reported anything you are sadly mistaken.

  • tom

    listen you shanty bastards you are a total embarressment to you heritadge. Destroy Gerritsen Beach and let HUMANS move in.

  • Anonymous

    61 CO Sit outside the bantry for like 5 minutes on a weekend and give GB a bit of attention you CompStat jerks.

    The 61 does not give a crap about us. I blame the community for being so insulated from everything. The department does not come to our meetings anymore and we don’t go to community meetings.

    The squeakiest wheel gets the most grease

  • Anonymous

    There are a lot of scumbags in GB,also lots of white trash.

    • Tom

      It’s the land of the misfit Irish. Inbred, uneducated scum. I have always been embarressed when around people, fellow Irish people, when when the subject of Gerritsen Beach comes up. No one has a positive thing to say about that cesspool. RIP Timmy, my condolences to your Dad Keven, quite a decent man.

      • blank

        are you kidding me first off gerritsen beach is hardly and Irish neighborhood anymore..iv lived here all my life and most of my friends came from everythig but and irish background. no one is imbred, and out of my extreamly large group of friends most attended college and moved on to be extrealy educated and upstanding citizens. dr’s laywers,business men & women, every kind of city worker you can think of, please be real stop with the gerritsen beach bashing, this was a terrible tragedy and was caused by specific people not an entire neighborhood, and btw if your from marine park or sheepshead or anyother neiborhood walk down your streets and tell me there is no drugs and crime. im very sorry for the loss but PUT THE GUILT WHERE THE GUILT BELONGS, ON THE PERSON/PEOPLE THAT COMMITTED THE CRIME. not the neighborhood they are from

        • Tom

          Hey Blank, are you from Mars or GB?

          • blank

            well tom, I’m from GERRISTEN BEACH Born and raised. I am a college graduate with a masters in early childhood psychology. so as i continue to read the the posts here i become more and more aware that my profession was a good choice considering that some of these people need professional help. especially these young impressionable children who are good people doing terrible things. and as for the adults on here your not sending a very good message to the youth of the neighborhood.

        • WTF MATE

          WHAT GERRISTEN DO YOU LIVE IT? gerristen is majority irish, gerristen is majority inbred. there are some really and truely nice people there, outstanding citizens the whole yards but that doesnt make up from lowlife degarding the neighbor hood more

          • Anonymous

            first and formost we are all american born and raised what difference does it make were our great grandparents come from and in my case im 7th generation american …we all went to the same schools and got the same education so the choices we all made were our own not our backgrounds and futher more i cant stress enough that there really is no IMBREEDING in the neighborhood come on people thats ridicilous

  • Anon

    If any of you GB bashers drove down Gerritsen Ave and asked any/every lowlife u seen where he or she is from I BET they say another neighborhood outside of GB. How are u ignorant people going to blame little pre-teens who were also from out if the neighborhood for stabbing to older guys? Don’t u think they would’ve gotten their ass whipped before getting their knife out? U ppl blaming the young GB kids are SO stupid & have no clue about what goes on down here. If there is a group of 15 kids doing something dumb, one of them are from GB, the rest aren’t n they just came down here with their “one friend” they think “this isn’t my neighborhood, therefore I can trash it n it won’t matter!” so keep ur kids out of GB and everything will be FINE like the good ol’ days… And that’ the truth becAuse this particular situation is the same except with older kids. NEITHER THE VICTIMS NOR THE CRIMINALS ARE FRO
    GB…. they’re all from Marine Park!!!! What a surprise!

    • Anonymous

      Who blamed pre-teens? Why does it seem like half of you people on this site can’t read? And let me reiterate… why does it matter where the kids were from? One of them is DEAD.
      Stop worrying so much about who is bashing your neighborhood, and take a moment to hug your own children and be glad they are still there… anyone’s child could have walked into the middle of this mess and been hurt or killed. And while you are hugging your own child, take a minute to think of the mother who will never hug HER son again!!!

      • Anon

        2 comments that I just re-read Which were posted at 10:13 am, & another at 10:18 am, that had to do with blaming the younger kids…I didn’t feel like making myself sick by reading anymore. Guess u weren’t at this site when that bullcrap went down. Go back and read, If u can. Everyone tries to point the finger when they don’t have a clue! If u wanna know go backwArds on this page or to other incidents in GB, which Also had a bunch of “out of the neighborhood kids.” Why am I explaining myself to u?! Goodbye! Oh btw I am also friends with the Murray family and they know who did it…. I just thought it was ridiculous for some stupid ass (anonymous) to blame a boy who threw a rock at a bus on halloween for stabbing a man! Omg wake up and get out of ur house! Get some common sense!

  • Anonymous

    A lot of these GB kids act like animals,maybe because there parents are always drunk.

    A lot

  • Anonymous

    wow u old ass pepole have nothing better to do but bash mp get a life and realize your kids are cooking meth in the basements of your shanty gb homes!

  • Doesn't matter

    Despite if it happened on the street, in a bar, GB, MP…..if we can all agree on one thing…..let it be this..every neighborhood has THAT bar and their fair share of drug addicts, tough guys and just straight up degenerates. Let’s not lose focus on the situation at hand…..i didn’t know this guy or his brother, so i can’t speak for them as far as what type of people they were…..but people lost a family member and a friend…..let’s not place blame on a neighborhood or a bar….because we all know that can happen anywhere.

  • Anonymous

    There are a lot of drugs in GB,also lots of crack heads in the bars.

  • Anonymous

    wow, I live right over there!! Kind of scary, It is not so much the people in GB but those who are from surrounding areas coming in. GB is prime area for body dumping if you think about it.

  • Anonymous

    I know the family of these 2 brothers and i know for a fact from nypd that the bar in gb is being watched for the drugs going in and out of there plus the brothers where in that bar last night according to nypd the guy that lives in mp was involved with 2 other people that live in gb in the next 24 hours they will have everybody that is related to this crime locked up mark these words

    • Anonymous

      so you are saying “on good knowledge” that the bantry is being “watched” by the pd? So where were these cops when the murder and attempted murder went down? Secondly, why are they “watching” the bar and doing nothing about (as you say) all the drugs going in and out? Why would these “cops” be telling YOU such secret and sensitive information when they should be out stopping the very crimes that you tell us they are watching? I just hate when people make crap up just to make themselves seem important or relevant. Get a grip, please!

  • Aghast!

    Well there have been a multitude of posts since this morning. The tragedies that occurred last night horrify most of us and our hearts bleed for the family! This dysfunctional neighborhood of ours needs to heal. We are all slinging mud at each other. Murder occurred last night on our streets.. Which shows what we human beings are capable of when angry and/or under the influence. I still love my neighborhood. There are hypocrites, drunks, wife beaters, drug addicts living there. Some of them are our neighbors, family members, etc. Pointing fingers at each other is counter productive. Can we all just get along.

  • Danielle

    Rest In Peace Timmy
    You are a great and wonderful person. You will LIVE on in your family and friends. WE LOVE YOU. My brother misses you very much. You will always be his and my brother. We have been through alot, but at the end of the day it’s all love.

    People on this site saying negative stuff…..GET IT TOGETHER. A wonder life has been lost over some major bullshit. Start focusing on what YOU can do to make sure stuff like this never happens again!!!!!

  • ITSME

    It’s not the neighborhood that’s bad it’s the ppl in it that give it a name regardless where ppl come from Crime is EVERYWHERE! instead of competing on what neighborhood is worse think about the life that was taken and the other one that’s clinging to his life. This is crazy!! It’s disgusting that these are kids taking kids lives! My condolences and sympathy go out to the Murray family. May god give you the strength to get through this and may time heal all wounds rest in peace Timmy<3

  • Hey Hey

    I just want to give my deepest sympathies and condolences to the Murray Family and I pray that Ryan makes it and is oK. Thats the only thing on my mind tonight. I am not a parent but they always say that its a parents worst nighmare to bury their child .. Well in this case it may be 2 burials.. I can only imaging what this family is oing through and Im truly sorry to them for this tragedy.. Good night GB and whoever else

  • Anonymous

    All u people should have respect for this kid and his family. I live in gb for 36yrs and it’s a beautiful place to live by the water.the problem today is that all these kids mentioned smoke angel dust like it’s cool.all u parents need to take responsibility for ur children! And for all suspects have fun payin ur lawyers and livin in jail u assholes. Remember the truth always comes out and we will see what lowlife punks get caught for this. These kids forget it’s 2011 n the cops already got them. I heard these kids grew up together wat a shame for their families. To a kid I never met RIP

  • Anon

    U people don’t know any owner of any of these bars, so stop making up stories cause they’re all coming straight outta your ass! I’m good friends with all the owners and guess what they have great reputations, great families & values. Don’t be jealous cause they own something and u don’t. If u think u know the owners let’s Hear some names?! Didnt think so! Stop trying to give the bars and owners bad names cause they have nothing to do with this or anything. I’m sure your done worse than any of them!

    • ABBY

      iT’S THE SKELLS THAT HANG OUT IN THE BAR. HALF THE TIME THE OWNERS DON’T GIVE A CRAP, AS LONG AS THEY ARE MAKING MONEY. THEY DON’T CARE IF YOUR NOT 21 AS LONG AS THEY SPEND MONEY. AND AS FAR AS TIMMY HE COULD OF BEEN A JERK OFF SOMETIME BUT HE WAS HARMLESS. I KNOW WHAT A STABBING IS LIKE BECAUSE BECAUSE IT HAPPENED IN MY FAMILY. STOP WITH THE SNITCH CODE. GROW UP AND STOP FIGHTING, IF YOU WANT TO FIGHT USE YOUR HANDS. REMEMBER WHAT GOES AROUND ALWAYS COMES BACK.

  • Anonymous

    You people need to get a life. SOMEONE DIED…Does anyone care about that?? Who the FUCK cares about the bars. A DEAD life and another FIGHTING FOR HIs is whats most important. I feel for those families…. What you all should be doing is helping the police get the people who did this. Not bashing the bars….NO ONE CARES ABOUT THE BARS… RIP

  • Another Anonymous

    The police NEVER respond in Gerritsen Beach and our bus service is poor BECAUSE OF the people in Gerritsen Beach and THEIR CHILDREN!! When you see grown women unable to walk straight down the avenue because they are so ossified, and these same ossified women PEE on the sidewalk outside your home (yes – they do this in BROAD DAYLIGHT!!… and have the wherewithal to run when you yell at them!!!) — well – retribution comes in the form of people standing back and watching you and your idiot kids all kill yourselves….!! No police response?? Why is that not surprising to me???

    • Anon

      What is this the boy who cried wolf? And who’s talkin about Piss on a site like this about a dead guy? U must be a guy. The cops responded to a call at 1am when it first happened. WOLF!!

  • Don't worry bout it

    Whoever posted this picture needs to fking take it down immediately!!! I don’t wana fking see my friends fking lifeless body uncovered laying on the fking damn beach!! It’s insensitive to us and his family!!

    • Jessica simpson

      sorry i meant to like your post, i dont wanna see my boy that i grew up with since i was 6 and he was four laying there lifeless…..whoever did this you are going down the cops will catch you animals fast….

  • ????????

    First I want to send my deepest condolences to the murry family.. next I seem to notice that every time there is a tragedy in gerritsen beach it always become a debate.. bottom line is most of you are acting like this is the only neighborhood in Brooklyn with drugs and crime …well guess again its not I have lived in this neighborhood for 28 years and have seen and experienced a lot iv hung out in just about every bar at very least once and yes drugs do run through them just like water but honestly iv been in bars in sheepshead bay, marine park, bay ridge ,bensonhurst ect. and the same exact thing goes on there .. its not the neighborhood every neighborhood in every city state and country has drug abuse and violence just read the paper or watch the news its the same everywhere.. im not a parent myself yet but I know kids because I was one once as was all of you, I come from a good home with 2 very good and responsible parents but I still experimented with drugs when I was a teen thankfully I never became addicted but that is the problem we face here addictions can cause a person to be someone they are truly not.. so stop blaming the parents especially when the victims and the suspects are all adults who are perfectly capable of making there own decisions..and stop blaming the neighborgoohs because it happens everywhere ( its not where you are its who you are)its sad though a life taken so soon and all anyone care about is how awful gerritsen beach is.. this was a terrible tragedy,and my heart bleeds for the family… RIP timmy murry <3

  • tommy

    listen, i am a witness of the entire incident pertaining to ryan murray. He was fleeing away from the assailants when several, NOT JUST 3 but at least 7 young men beat him. I saw the entire thing as it was wrong of me not to do anything but why put myself in the problem? they beat him for 5 to 10 minutes straight none stop while he screamed for help…I have a very very clear memory of hearing the poor man screaming owe repeatedly. AND YOU SKELLS AT THE BANTRY ALL WATCHED AND DID NOTHING, especially and three older males around 40-50 (looking like an average gb working classs man) sat there while they POINTED and LAUGHED. guess what gerristen beach!!!!, YOUR INFESTED WITH METHAMPHETAMINE users, cookers, and dealers. stop trying to support your neighborhood, it was a great neighborhood at one time but now its look behind the “tight knit irish mentality” curtain and do something. the poor kid was beat down with a bat and stabbed and i saw it all he was covered in blood. stop defending the bars owned by skells stop defending the children who are just as bad, and yes they are because im only 16 and i see it all. PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE DO SOMETHING ABOUT THIS BEFORE MORE INNOCENT GET HURT. and too all the people defending bantry, give it up it is a lost cause that bar is a drug haven and everyone knows it. just like they knew tim murray( who was a good person!!!!! doing the wrong thing just to get by) was selling drugs and was involved with a lot of drugs…..if you have anything to say please comment to this and ill keep talking, SPEAK UP PEOPLE! SPOT LAYING IN FEAR AND STAND UP FOR YOUR NEIGHBORHOOD

    • Anonymous

      U should be ashamed of yourself, that u heard thisman crying and that I didn’t want to be apart of the problem!!!!!! why didn’t u pic up the phone and call for help, he could of been alive! And how did he end up in the water, did u watch that too!!! SHAME ON U

      • Enough already

        He is LYING… he wasn’t a witness. The fight was not in front of ANY bar. 911 was called within a few minutes of the fight.

        • phil

          i did pick up the phone and i did call the police. the people at amici’s (not saying anything against amicis or the people there!) arent the only ones with phones. i am not lying, i am telling the truth and people need to realize the bigger issue before more people get hurt.

    • Anonymous

      Did you actually read what he wrote ….He said he witnessed what happened on the ave not at the point

  • Anonymous

    May the road rise to meet you,
    May the wind be always at your back,
    May the sun shine warm upon your face,
    The rains fall soft upon your fields and,
    Until we meet again,
    May God hold you in the palm of His hand.

  • Aghast!

    Please by the grace of god… Remove the picture of the poor kid lying facedown in the sand from your website. Think of his family and friends .. People who love him cannot bear to see him like that!!! Be human! Report but do not disrespect!

  • tommy

    PLEASE TO EVERYONE ON THIS SITE PLEASE STOP DEFENDING THE NEIGHBORHOOD, POLICE HAVE ALREADY MADE IT CLEAR THAT ONLY THE VICTIMS WERE NOT FROM GERRISTEN, IF YOU KNEW YOUR FACTS SAMUEL EDISON WAS QUESTIONED AND RELEASED HE IS NOT A SUSPECT! REPEAT, HE IS NOT A SUSPECT. EVERY PERSON NAMED AS A SUSPECT UP TO DATE IS FROM GERRISTEN BEACH.

    GET YOUR FACTS STRAIGHT THEN COMMENT.

  • Horrified but not shocked

    Well once again The editor is out for his own gain. A young man is murdered and this editor has the nerve to exploit his uncovered body on the web. As a parent I’m horrified and I hope for once the editor does the right thing and remove this picture. Stop worrying about Urself and how u always look to be in the spotlight but have some consideration for the Murray family.

    • Anonymous

      Did I miss something, no one was murdered. The guy on the beach probably OD’d or drown and the guy who was stabbed is alive (at least as of last night). YES I mourn for the parents having lost a child (28 yr old man, but still their child) but there was no murder(s) in the beach.

  • Anonymous

    I think it’s very distasteful that there is a picture of this guy laying on the beach dead. He wasn’t just a “body found on the beach” he was a person with a family and I would not want to see that if he were my family member, it should be taken down.

  • Anonymous

    TAKE THIS FUCKIN PICTURE DOWN OF MY BOY…FIRST OF ALL THE 3 KIDS WHO DID THIS ARE DEFFINATLY FROM THE BEACH…THESE 3 KIDS WERE PROBALLY WERE GETTIN WORKED BY MY BOY AND THEY PULLED A KNIFE WHEN HIS BROTHER CAME TO HELP HIM… THEN THEY HAD THE ABILITY TO HURT TIMMY WHEN HE WENT TO HELP HIS BROTHER…3 BIRDS FROM THE BEACH WHO ARE GONNA GET WORKED CAUSE WERE NOT GOIN TO THE COPS…WERE SHOWIN UP AT THERE HOUSES OR SHOULD I SAY SHACKS ……………..MARINE PARK FOR LIFE…MPK…

  • Anonymous

    two people are dead… lets remember that… stop fighting over stupidness grow up all of you!!

    • Anonymous

      let me fix this… one person is dead and one is holding onto his life as we speak…. stop the b.s and fighting over stupidness and grow up

  • 3rd bass

    rest easy brother timm love those pics on ur fb that was the night we chilled wit dirt .rest easy ur in a much better place now

  • Anonymous

    A life was taken, a good one! There was no reason for an innocent soul to have been murdered…..HE WAS MURDERED!!!
    People tend to forget that he was a SON, a BROTHER, a NEPHEW, a COUSIN, a FRIEND and a BRAND NEW UNCLE. He had so much to live for and so much to offer, but the brutal and vicious attack has taken all of that away. This has not
    only ruined one life, but all the lives of those who dearly loved Timmy. NOONE can ever understand the pain and suffering unless they experience it themselves. So for those of you who run your mouths, please take a moment and vision this happening to you.
    Now… see if you feel the same… EXACTLY…
    R.I.P Timmy…. You will always be remembered as the beautiful and most gentle soul that I and the rest of the people in your life were fortunate enough to know.

  • Anonymous

    :-( rip Timmy u will be missed

  • Anonymous

    YEA! And its almost Halloween in GB. Cant wait to see what the degenerite kids and 61 Cops are going to do this year! LOL

  • Anon.

    Its almost Halloween in G.B. Get ready to board up your windows! Cant wait to see what your looser kids and the LOOSER 61 pct. are going to do this year. LOL

  • Anonymous

    So the body at the beach was just a Junkie? But it was the junkies brother that was stabbed? Bad night for them huh?

  • Anonymous

    BTS TAKES CARE OF BUSINESS!!!

  • Mel

    Who cares about the bars….who cares about kids being out riding their bikes late…worry more about what you can offer to help a family who lost a son, a brother, a friend. This was a senseless act of violence and those responsible will pay for their actions. Right now all this energy being wasted trashing everyone can be used to help. No one in this post has even asked “How can we send the family a card or how can we help if help is needed?” or plain and simple…let the family know that you feel for their loss. Violence is found everywhere…and people are fast to set blame. Sorry for your loss and may you find the strength as a family in this sad time. God bless.

  • ThisisCrazy

    Gerritsen Beach was never a safe place to be or live. Someone said its a beautiful place to live, yea right maybe for the KKK. its the trailer park of brooklyn. If youre not from there, you should not be there. Everyone is blaming this kid sam edision, they were good friends, are you people stupid? trying to get the heat off gerritsen beach, you all know your neighborhood kids did this, everyone in gb is filled with hate.

    • ?

      with all due respect .. i live in gerritsen beach .. i am an upstanding citizen i have a good job, dont do drugs, socially drink and live in a $750,000.00 home IN GERRITSEN BEACH… STOP WITH THE TRAILER TRASH

  • anonymous

    SAM EDISON IS NOT A SUSPECT!! Him and Timmy were best friends and were hanging out that night at Sam’s house before Timmy left bc he heard his brother was in a fight. Sam was questioned and released u morons!!! Timmy was not murdered!!!! It was an unfortunate overdose. Get ur facts straight retards.

    • Anonymous

      So Sam Edison is not a suspect he’s still a registered sex offender. And the guy who dies OD’d on heroin. His brother got stabbed tryong to blame other people for his brothers addiction. Do I have that right?

  • Kate

    Here we go with the normal b.s. People talk out there ass & others repeat it as fact…it’s the GB way.

    Take the picture down. A warning about it being graphic? It’s one of the most insensitive things I have ever seen on here.

    • GBgirl

      So true, I wonder how Dan can just jump on a boat just to get a photo of Tim laying on the shore! Dead! Is the 1st thing he thinks of his job? That’s just ridiculous what he does for publicity. This is not the NY Times Dan, take a chill pill and stop jumping on boats for one reason only. That’s disgusting & I feel terrible for the family & friends who have had to look at that picture and now have that stuck in their minds forever!! Omg

  • anonymous

    i grew up around both of these neighborhoods. i cant believe people are going on about keeping outsiders out of Gerritsen Beach. your acting as if these neighborhoods are so far away from each other… as if kids in marine park and kids from GB dont know each other. i can tell you that i think considering how most neighborhoods have changed drastically since i was younger… both MP and GB are both still nice. bad things happen every where. i grew up with the murrays and went to catholic school with all 3 of their children. they are a good irish catholic family. they were hard working parents with 3 children that were all extremely close. im not surprised that both brothers were together and watching out for each other. timmy was a great kid. i think its completely disrespectful posting that picture of him on the beach. if it was your son you wouldnt want that picture up. all my prayers are for the murray family… for ryans recovery and for their emotional healing.

  • Annon

    Without losing respect for the terrible crime that has happened, I would just like to point out to all the Marine Park Residents, you have the same crap going on in your neighborhood that we do. The only difference is that we have only one strip of stores/bars/etc and we are a very close community. By close I mean on top of each other. You have bars spread out all over. You still have the bad kids, the bad drugs, what makes you think you don’t? Every neighborhood has there share of the good, the bad and the ugly. I can tell you there are many decent, successfull, hard working and honest people living here in Gerritsen Beach. Doctors, Lawyers, Vets, CPA’s, Cops, Firemen, Nurses, Sanitation, Investment Bankers, Court Officers, Con Ed, United Grid, Custodial and many ther great careers that I am probably forgetting. Remember that old story about casting stones. You have chose to tear a whole Commuity apart. For the most part a good Community. If you have no drugs in Marine Park, no bad apples, that continue to post. If you see the light, then just continue to pray for your neighbor.

  • pic change

    Kuddos to the editor for removing the image of the victim uncovered. I guess its not all about the “clicks” as they say. My condolences to the family. Prayers go out to you in this time of sorrow. Wishing for a full recovery of the other victim.

  • girlygirl

    what don’t you people get that there is one brother gone and another one recovering? How about how their family feels? What about what their family is going through? It doesn’t matter where it started or how it happened…it happened and I knew both brothers personally and Timmy was a great friend was always there for whoever needed him no questions asked and Ryan is the same way….so let’s not put blame on any BAR in the beach….if it was in a different neighborhood all you people would be blaming a bar there…..THE ONLY PERSON/PEOPLE THAT ARE AT FAULT ARE THE LOW LIFE NASTY SCUMBAGS THAT TOOK AWAY ONE OF THE NICEST PEOPLE I EVER KNEW AND TRIED TO TAKE AWAY HIS BROTHER TOO…..REVENGE WILL BE MET……
    RYAN GET BETTER SOON…
    TIMMY REST IN PEACE…WATCH OVER US ALL WE WILL SEE YOU AGAIN ONE DAY

    AND TO THE MURRAY FAMILY MY CONDOLENCES

  • Concerned

    99% of these posts are extremely embarrassing to our entire community………you have no one to blame for our bad reputation but yourselves. All of you should be concerned about the crimes committed in our neighborhood and not about who committed them and where they are from. NEWS FLASH……drug dealers only come into our neighborhood to sell drugs to our neighbors. Most people in our community are related in one way or another and I think it is safe to say that WE all know or have known/loved someone with a drug/alcohol addiction. My heart goes out to the entire Murray family on their loss. No parent should have to bury their child no matter what the circumstances are.

  • aM0M

    un-freaking believable your still going on
    To TOMMY please call the polices & tell them everything you know, but don’t go to the 61 if they are over looking crime already in the area ….you GB ppl flap so much the truth will come out FYI
    Sam was a friend of Tim’s true
    Hello Tim was beaten to death didn’t OD !!!!!!!
    Everyone just loves to make up stuff for attention
    I really believe the 16 yr old Tommy ..I pray you tell the cops all you know
    I can’t wait for the truth to come out then all you are going sit there with your jaw hanging down and nothing to say ….
    They weren’t drug dealers lol they didn’t even own a car WTF ???????? if I was I would have $$ for a car how stupid ..I’m so sick about it I can’t even read this crap anymore..GB girl watch what you say

  • cj mom

    i am so glad they took that picture down. i could not stand to look at it…

  • Anonymous

    As long as the inbreds continue to consider gerritsen beach to be a wealthy suburb of marine park, you will never understand reality. It does not matter what neighborhood these drug selling lowlifes came from. The fact that they are totally welcomed and accepted in the beach, selling their death and destruction to beach kids is your problem, and a big one it is!

    • phil

      im not saying your right, and im not saying your wrong many of ppl do bring hatred, drugs, and problems to the neighborhood but remember there is a large majority of our own gerrritsen ppl doing the same as welll

  • Anonymous

    BTS BITCHES!!!!

  • Anonymous

    I was chase out of GB because I’m Spanish

    • Anonymous

      are you kidding me i have 3 spanish families living on my block stop your lying .. its probably something you did personally not what your race is

  • Don't worry bout it

    First let’s get this straight, Timmy did not OD. He did drugs yes, he drank yes, but he did not OD walk to the point and jump off into the water and drown himself and leave his brother fo dead! That’s just a ridiculous theory! Especially considering the toxicology report hasn’t even returned with results yet, not to mention the fact that when he was found there were multiple traumatic injuries to his body! What are u ppl gonna say next, the multiple traumatic injuries on his body were self inflicted and he decided to take a stroll and jump off the point!!!

    • Anonymous

      I understand he is probally your friend but going by what latest report is that they questioned a girl who gave this story. Who said they came here after a party and it seems his brother came here looking for him so if this is true he didn’t leave his brother for dead he never even knew he was here.

  • ThIs sam edison character should get the death penalty!!!!!

  • JFC

    http://www.nydailynews.com/nydn/form/ssearchResults.jsp?sort=pubdate_dt&q=samuel edison&dtfq=pubdate_dt:[NOW/DAY-7YEARS TO NOW/DAY]

    Jesus Fucking Christ, stop with your different variations of what side of the story will make what neighborhood look better and fking read the article a**holes. RIP Timmy :/

  • Coolie

    Please don’t hold Danny responsible for any wrongdoing. He is simply reporting the news of the neighborhood, and any aspiring or established journalist has to report both the good and the bad. I’m glad the picture was removed and replaced, and I can promise that he didn’t intentionally post it to disturb or disrespect anyone.

    In the end, this website exists to give you, the visitor, an outlet to express yourselves, and that’s better than being left in the dark.

    I am very sorry for your loss, to those of you who knew Timothy and cared about him. To those who did not know him or care about him, try to show some class and respect in this difficult time for everyone. Put yourself in his brother’s shoes: how would you feel if you had to watch your mother bury your brother from a hospital bed?

  • Beach Rat

    Murray, Edison…….Not residents of Gerritsen Beach, Correct???? I think MARINE PARK.

  • sims

    timmy dog yall neva be forgotten homie we all m miss you man!!!

  • Anonymous

    The police at the 61 are cowards! you can do whatever you want in this neighborhood! Why? Because the police are too scared to come here and do their job! All they care about is giving out tickets here to meet their monthly quota in one or two nights and take it easy the rest of the month. And the people that are taking drugs, selling drugs, brinking booze, and having sex in the open aren’t afraid of the police! What makes you think they would be afraid of me OR you! Is this incident finally going to make the 61 grow a pair of balls and patrol this neighborhood the way it should be patroled?

  • Liv

    The people leaving ridiculous, absurd comments need to shut the fuck up! You don’t even know this person or what has been done to him. For you to say such ridiculous things like you were a witness but didn’t want to get involved, YOU SHOULD DIE! Oh, I can’t fish there tomorrow? DIE SLOW! No one deserves to die. I am EXTREMELY disappointed in GerritsenBeach.net for posting such explicit pictures of the victim, Tim Murray. HOW DARE YOU! Have you no heart or consideration for the family of these 2 brothers and their privacy? Have you realized the people your hurting by being so selfish just to have people read your website??? It would be a wise decision to take the graphic pictures and hurtful comments down to respect the family and friends of the Murray brothers.

  • Anonymous

    May your neighbors respect you,
    Trouble neglect you,
    The angels protect you
    And heaven accept you.

    ——————————————————————————–

  • Anonymous

    Hopefully Geritten Beach wakes up and realizes it is not simply pot heads smoking a doobie and listening to Led Zep or Pink Floyd.. There is a serious drug problems here..

  • SupaFly

    The truth gets lost in an argument. So what really happened?

  • Anonymous

    RIP TIMMY U WILL BE MISSED

  • Anonymous

    It matters because we have enough of our own problems in GB with trouble making people, we don’t need any more coming in from some where else. My condolences to the Murray family. No body deserves to die no matter where they come from.

  • Hey Hey

    I think you are all missing a very big point. The title says Body Found and that body was Tim Murray and he was someones son or brother or friend or neighbor. Then there is Ryan Murray who is fighting for his life and again, he is someones son, brother, friend or neighbor. The real issue should be not bashing each other or starting a war but should be mourning Tim and praying for Ryan. Maybe thinking Wow those poor parents. Do they have the money to bury their son and will their insurance pay to keep Ryan in the hospital? How are they doing? Do they need anything? Is there anything that us as a neighborhood can do for them? BUT NO< all your doing is talking crap about each other and comparing neighborhoods and trashing the bars or whatever.. It makes me sick how people throw their own versions of what happened and who was there, who wasnt there ? ENOUGH!!!!!! Murder, drugs, gangs, fights, rape are in every neighborhood.. Its part of the world and its disgusting but the real issue here is the Murray Family and what they are going through and helping them deal with such a tragedy that I hope none of your families ever have to deal with.. Think about it

  • Anonymous

    a few more drug addicts gone, let’s get some of the deals out of the beach and the people looking to “score” won’t be going to the Beach.

  • Shea Holmes

    Every time I read another story like this it makes me realize that moving from the Beach was not a bad decision. I was in the neighborhood approx three weeks ago to finish up the sale of my last property I owned in the Beach.I noticed the lack of Businesses on the Avenue,and just the overall looks of the avenue.Most of the houses looked quite well however.After talking to a few friends who still live in the Beach they were concerned about the drug problem which is common knowledge…Well things change but not always for the better.

  • JerryB

    Does anyone know how to break a lease and not get shafted on anything more than the security deposit? No wonder I got a great deal on the place and the landlord lives in Staten Island!
    I need to get the hell out of GB! I wish I knew about this website before I moved here!

    At what age do the “kids” in GB become men and women? When do they start looking for jobs??

    This place looked like heaven – but it is really hell on earth!
    People bad mouth Harlem and other low income areas! WTF! I am in middle class hell!

    Someone stated that the owner of one of the bars is a former cop – DUH!!
    Why do you think the cops lay off the place!

    • Shea Holmes

      Jerry,
      I owned a house on Celeste ct for years after We moved. we rented it out.From my point of view if a tenant came to me with safety concerns about the neighborhood I would consider letting him or her out of the lease. Now thats me,I would try talking to the Landlord and explain your concerns.who knows he might just let you walk,If nothing else its worth a try. Thats my best advice falling short of a lot of legal hassles.

      • JerryB

        @Shea Holmes:

        Spoke with landlord – He said bad influence in GB is why he moved his family to Staten Island. He wants 6 months rent to break the lease! Seems he had trouble renting the place and does not want to lose money!

    • Anonymous

      @JerryB: I don’t know your current situation but I think you are over reacting a bit. Murder is always shocking, but reports just came out that crime is on the rise all over the city. May have to do with 50 years of liberal thought turned into failed policy. I am a long time resident that grew up in GB which is one of the safest places in Brooklyn , however it is in fact Brooklyn the most populated of the five boroughs of NYC. I have always said there is trouble in GB if you look for it. If you are not in the market for heavy drugs and criminal activity it should be pretty safe. If people come here looking for trouble they may be unpleasantly surprised at what they get into. I assume this would be the same for Bensonhurst, Gravesend, Howard Beach and many other neighborhoods in the city. I will admit that the current generation seems a bit more wild and uncontrollable than past generations. I assume that has to do with their parents, my above comment on the past 50 years, and the fact that we all seem to think the younger generation seems less respectful in general.

  • Diana

    For all of those posting negativity on this article have no social graces what so ever! You do realize that the family and friends of the victims are reading this page? Not only do they have to go through the pain of losing a son and having the other hospitalized, but now have to go through further pain of mean comments of the bullies on here. Everyone is pointing fingers calling each other trash, meanwhile making insinuations that Murray brothers were at fault of their own demise because of possibly being at a drug den bar or fighting due to drug turf wars is trashy behaviour within itself. Writing this so their family could read it and cause further heartache!? Do us all a favor and start your own blog/fan club on how hateful Gerristan Beach or Marine Park is on another website and perserve this one to give condolences to the Murray Family. Crime has been increasing in BOTH MP and GB. Police presence should be made so such tragedies can be avoided!

  • All smiles

    Do you like apples?
    I am a from GB, and well known. I have had relations with the hottest/smartest/nicest girls to ever come out of your neighborhood. Chances are…. one of your family members is one of them. I was always welcome! :)
    How do you like them apples?

    • Anonymous

      I have read these commments and it makes me sick! Who cares about GB? or MP? Your kids go to school together.. Its the same thing.. The only people to be blamed are the parents. IT IS TRUE, kids in GB are hanging out till early hours. They are hanging out in the back weeds drinkin and doing drugs. MP kids are hanging out in marine park and doing the same thing.. BAYRIDGE, BENSONHURST, BRIGHTON BEACH, it is all the same. PAY ATTENTION TO YOUR KIDS. This generation is going to ruin it for everyone else behind them. It is not about which neighborhood is better, or which neighborhood is selling or dealing..this tragedy has affected all of us. These are out children, nephews, nieces, grandchildren. Lets make it right for them. Life is too short to fight over nonsense. Parents have alot of influence on their childrens lives, so i say… THE APPLE DOESN’T FALL FAR FROM THE TREE.

      MAY TIMMY REST IN PEACE. MAY RYAN RECOVER FAST. MAY THE MURRAY FAMILY FIND PEACE IN THEIR LIVES THROUGH.
      THIS TRAGEDY. MAY THEY FIND OUT EXACTLY WHAT HAPPENED AND JUSTICE BE SERVED TO THOSE INVOLVED.

  • Anonymous

    From my grandparents to my grandchildren there is a common trend from GB to MP and the only ones who will understand this is the people from GP and MP and it’s called alcoholism. Instead of feuding over this may we learn from it.
    Prayers to all involved.

  • Brooklynjewboy

    R.I.P TIMMY

  • phil

    never said i was at the bantry and i never said it was at the bantry, but it wasnt too far from it, SO YOU LOW LIFE TRYING TO SAVE YOUR ASSES FROM LOOKING BAD, GIVE UP….and do nothing? im pretty sure i called the olice way before i saw anyone at amicis move. And to not getting involved? the whole problem is because a man is dead and another is fighting for his life, would you like it too be two dead or two fighting for there lives. to whoever is commenting back your probaby one of the assholes standing outside bantry. i did all i could i even gave description of the people who did it to the police so SHUT THE FUCK UP. you gerristen beach residents are a majority of low life…..TO ALL RESPECTFUL RESIDENTS OF GERRISTEN BEACH GET OUT WHILE YOU STILL CAN!

  • Anonymous

    the point was that they were not from gerritsen beach. did you not understand that

  • Anonymous

    obviously I didn’t… why does it matter where they are from?
    Are the lives of people from elsewhere worth less?

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