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Roving Teens Target Gerritsen Ave Laundromat Daily

Laundromat Wine Liquor

We have received numerous reports that our local youth have been harassing the owner White Wave Laundromat (2690 Gerritsen Ave) on Gerritsen Avenue on a daily basis. This may have been due to the recent school week off but nevertheless the laundromat seems to be a timeless target for vandals. The vandals are closing the security gates (essentially locking everyone inside) and throwing objects into the store and at the owner. People are worried that this may be a potential hate crime in the making because the owner is a Chinese woman and the vandalism does not happen when others are manning the store.

Coming in Via E-Mail:

There’s a group out roudy kids… who are continuously throwing things, and close the metal gate down on the laundrymat on the ave. The owner is a nice chinese woman, and they do it because she gets crazy when they do this. They laugh at her for cursing etc. One day last week I chased them and grabbed a kid by his coat to try and make peace for her but he just coldly laughed at me and said she’s funny that’s why they do it. Its pretty close to a hate crime but not so…one day im affraid they’re going to break the glass. It happens atleast once a day. She put up surveilance but when she calls the cops they’re already gone and all the surveilance shows is the kids jackets. One day they threw a snow ball that was strong enough to dent her car.

We will post the surveillance video if/when it is available.

In the meantime watch these:

227 comments to Roving Teens Target Gerritsen Ave Laundromat Daily

  • gb girl

    It has been going on longer then just this past week that the lil angels have had off….I say that with all the sarcasm I can! I saw it happen the night before Thanksgiving, I was leaving the liquor store where I was shopping for holiday wine when I noticed the same wonderfuls from halloween standing in front of the laundromat an laughing so I sat in my car an waited acting like I was doing something else I saw them go to pull the gates down while half of them ran I jumped out of my car an the rest of the kids took off. Besides the workers there were costumers inside also. Something really needs to be done with these kids. Its a shame cause they are so young…the parents are definitely FAILING them!!!!!!!!!

  • Anonymous

    Perhaps if the lady bought a throw away camera she may be able to at least get a pic of one of the kids. It has been my belief that too many parents in the beach have their heads stuck up their a–. Time to extract it & get a grip on your little brats. It surely sounds like a hate crime to me.

    • Anonymous

      In addition to the camera she should apply for and keep a gun. She has the right to do so as she is being terrorized. She should blast one of these kids in the face and let their parents clean the brains up off the floor.

      • MoMan 1

        FYI…Years ago there was a pharmacy called Gerritsen Pharmacy just south of Devon Ave . The Owner Marty was robbed a few times so he got a pistol permit and a gun.The next time he was robbed he shot the robber. Well the robber sued him ,he lost his business and I believe his home and ended up as the Pharmacist at Kings Highway Hospital .Thats what protecting yourself ends up more times than not.The law protects the criminals and pricks and punishes the victims.

      • ANON

        Why wouldnt white precious talk to channel 11 news when they came to the laundrymat to try to help?

    • Anonymous

      if the owner wasnt chinese or some other protected group would this be a love crime?

      crime is crime. there is no need to label the same crime against one individual more heinous than an individual of a different group. in fact it is a violation of the 14th amendment of the us constitution:

      “…No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.”

      the hate crime designation is unconstitutional because it treats crimes against government defined protected groups differently than crimes against unprotected groups.

      • Anonymous

        While I would generally agree with that, it wasn’t the focus of this article. We need to solve the problem of the teen hoods. Stay focused.

        • Kelly

          Good Point ! So what is your solution to the problem. Mine is Sell my house and leave all this BS behind.

          • Anonymous

            See ya you big mouth know- it -all !!!! Go somewhere nice and integrated, like East Flatbush or wait, let me guess, someplace with no teens, no drugs, no underage drinking. Shangra-La!!!!

          • Kelly

            Typical A hole Beacher Reply..Are any of these uncivilized white trash kids yours ? Sure sounds like one or so would be.

          • Anonymous

            No, Kelly, none of them are mine. Mine are in college. But if you think it’s so bad here, and from your billion comments, I guess you do, then I guess the answer for you is to ‘sell your house and leave the BS behind’. My question to you would be where are you going that doesn’t have problems with teens? Where is it that kids don’t throw snowballs at buses? I’m not sticking up for the kids, and what they are doing to the Laundrymat is terrible, but you are doing far more damage to the neighborhood with your comments than they could ever dream up. How are you any better when you get on here and call people names and use foul language?

          • Kelly

            So whats your answer? Stick your head in the Sand and pretend everything is fine. I have lived here many years.and may I add both of my children are in collage as well. Sure I will sell the house and move soon,but in the mean time these acts are killing our property values. This site is intended for Comments,Ideas etc. Do you actually think the Police is going to do anything ? Considering some of these Kids parents are COPS. Want to play hard ball Pal ? I can post some names of these Kids than you can do the research. So are you game ?

          • Anonymous

            Am I game for what, you twit? Play hard ball? These acts aren’t killing our property values, the crashed housing market and the economy are. And of course your constant ranting. Anyone reading your comments would think this really was-what did you call it? Oh yeah, a slum. You called someone you don’t even know ‘a prick’. You know what, Kelly? I think our property values would improve if you moved. And by the way, it’s COLLEGE, not collage. If your kids are actually in it, you should learn how to spell it. You don’t need to post the names of the kids, we all know who they are and none as far as I know have parents who are cops. Some of them are retired firemen, sick from 9/11, but you go ahead, post their names if that makes you feel powerful and righteous. Let those among you without sin cast the first stone. Are you really so perfect? Why not post your name so we can research YOU.

          • Kelly

            Oh ! Pardon my spelling error. Now as far as I go FYI I have lived on Fane Ct for many years. I have seen businesses leave the Beach,because of Anonymous people like you not wanting to get involved in civic affairs. Sure the Real Estate market tanked, do you think this reputation we have is helping Values? As far as being righteous,No just realistic ! Firemen from WTC ,I have one that lives across the street from me. It seems that we both know who these kids are.The difference between me and you is that I am using my real name and not hiding behind a keyboard using an Anon. So now that you have made yourself clear.I guess that you have a problem with anyone who says or post something negative be it true or false about your little Utopia

          • Anonymous

            you should visit their parents and make them aware of bad behavior. if nothing is done then take legal action.

      • whatever

        The key words in the ammendment are “No State” which is why hate crimes are usually tried by the Federal Government which isn’t a state. It’s oversight in the wording of the ammendment but it is what it is.

    • Parent of little ones

      Like I have said before, a few calls to ACS may work wonders. Enough people know who the little darlings are, so why not turn their parents into ACS and let these kids get the help they so desperately need before they move onto bigger more dangerous crimes. It obviously keeps getting worse and nothing is being done about it

  • Anonymous

    And as a community we wonder why it is so difficult to attract businesses to open and remain open along our commercial strip, Gerritsen Ave.

  • gb girl

    Wasn’t the big loud mouth at the halloween home owners meeting the father of the kid a couple of years back that was arrested for a hate crime that was all over the daily news. Maybe instead of siding with the outraged mom he should have been offering tips on how to avoid raising a delinquent!

  • JD

    So which you think is gonna happen first:

    1 – Kids are going to get someone killed and there parents & friends will say when good kids there are as they are being taken away to jail.

    or

    2- Kids are going to get killed by someone they mess with and there parents & friends will say when good kids there are as they are being buried.

  • long time resident

    A neighborhood that is losing control to kids..such a shame. These kids are ruining it for the rest of us. They are causing so much damage. We can’t have police protection, bus shelters, store owners without fear, a safe Halloween, etc…It’s such a shame. Instead of everyone pointing the finger it’s time to look at your own.

  • Anonymous

    There was a whole bunch of low lifes most of them were in the picture net posted on the halloween fiasco. They were on Bevy Ct. Near channel Ave. apparently one of her kids or her girl friends kid got punched in the face by a black kid that lives on that block after calling him a racial slur. Seems like her parenting skills still suck the kid is still getting in trouble .Liam I think his name is-the police were there in multiple cars and left without making an arrest. Looks like her speech about handling our problems without the police is a bunch of bull crap.Hope he enjoyed getting a beat down in the beach from that black kid.This is that same group of little scumbags the blonde school bus driver freak was out there defending at the property owners meeting. We all know who they are Jack E, Fred G ect only a matter of time before they get caught on video and end up with a criminal record in jail where they belong. I think this happened 2 days before new years.

  • Anonymous

    Just a shame that these parents who don’t care about the actions of their kids and basically encourage this behavior everytime they turn a blind eye, are ruining what could be one of the best nieghborhoods in brooklyn! Hey parents, stop drinking and getting high with your kids! Your just showing them its ok to be a piece of shit like you! Don’t we wanna do better for our kids? Living in a meighborhood without all of this bullshit drama isn’t something that is too much to ask!

  • Anon

    I’m so sick of these little assholes running around terrorizing the people of this neighborhood. You should be grateful you haven’t come across me in the street yet. I won’t raise my hand to you, but I’ll go beat the crap out of your parents for allowing it. Then maybe you’ll see how it feels to have someone you care about terrorized.

  • gb girl

    That is the first time I am hearing about that incident with the black kid…Iam not pointing fingers I know who they everyone knows who they are. My kids are still little I can rest assure you they wont be wrecking havoc when they are older an if I had even a inkling of a idea that they were I would be all over their asses. Its time these parents put their kids first stop letting them get away with it…as for the question above I say and GOD forbid they will probably get someone hurt first.

  • Anonymous

    Do any of these loudmouth inbreds who scream at these property owners meetings ever show up when there kids aren’t in trouble for something? Or do they just show up to inpersonate a parent who actually gives a fuck about their children and what society thinks of them?

  • captain gene

    what a bunch of skum, as usual the shit that grows up here attacks a business or property or a person because theyre of a different race. when will all of u racist haters and losers grow up and stop being douche bags? seriously the times have changed, last time i checked were in NY the emlting pot of our counrty, not somewhere in the sticks in alabama or in the south where racism lives strong, i see confederate flags on some peoples flagpoles and everything, theres no room for that here, these kids im sure were once nice kids, but all their heroes that they looked up to in this neighboorhood were trash that taught them this and its a shame, i used to be like one of these kids and im glad i am not anymore, but i never took it to this much of an extreme when your attacking a neighboorhood business, what a joke you are and what a joke this neighboorhood is, i feel bad for the people that live here and have to deal with this shit all the time

  • John Gavin

    locking people inside is kidnapping…holding someone against their will.

    • thewayitusedtob

      I KNOW OF ANOTHER BUSINESS OWNER THAT HAS BEEN HARASSED FOR MONTHS. I GUESS THE KIDS MOVED UP THE BLOCK. They are known to bang on store windows and scream at people inside their stores and refuse to leave. I know the police are called but I also know that it takes them 45 minutes to respond.

      • Anonymous

        Hey GBPOA, how about getting a response from the cops?

        • Anonymous

          GBPOA is a dead organization. Our only hope is for Dan to start a group.

          Sad but True.

          • ???

            How does a website qualify him to be a Leader? He posts negative postings, allows everyone on here to bully each other and make threats. Also, many of the comments are misleading and keep refering back to people who had no issues with this situation.

            As for these kids, I agree, they need to be put in place. Call the Police and do it legally, Demand a patrol car or undercover to patrol, get a foot cop to sit inside when they normally come around. I watched a kid with a Red coat and a Red Baseball cap walk up and throw a chunk of ice against that window. The lady did come out and I told her they were just kids being kids, not realizing that they are doing this on a daily basis. There was only 2 kids that were being the tough guys and the other 15 were just watching and laughing.

            The parents need to step in and know what the kids are up too.

            This website is not the answer, just a rumor mill where anyone can say anything. That said, is what I said above true or just made up.

          • Anonymous

            Leader is a word loosely thrown around these days. The groups we currently have have no real leadership and no set goals. They are just going with the flow.

            What experience gives some of these people to run a community group? Thats like saying the president of Fed Ex is qualified to be president. No one really has experience but this website has it’s ear to the ground and speaks to people in a real way with no politics. The site is not at all a rumor mill.

            You must be one of those that only comment to jump on the owner of the site.

          • gb girl

            u watched them do it to the poor lady and then had the balls to defend them!!! Are you serious which delinquent are you related to???

          • serious

            Where did this person say they defended them. You are creating a Rumor. Can’t you reads dis.

          • gb girl

            maybe you cant read SERIOUS but ??? said he watched them throw ice at the window n when she came out to yell he told her they were just kids being kids, so what do u call that?? Reprimanding them?? 17 kids in total isnt that a bit much to be harrassing anyone!!

          • Anonymous

            You are part of the problem for letting “kids be kids” by throwing ice!! You fool.

          • Guardian angels

            if you get involved, you end up in jail with lots of legal bills, I wouldn’t get involved unless someone was getting hurt. You should all put on some red caps and patrol the streets and get into fights with 12 and 13 year olds, then you can post your comments from jail. how is this person part of the problem for seeing something?? Or saying something to that person. Who’s is

          • Anonymous

            If you DO get invloved then you don’t tell someone being harrased by having a block of ice thrown at her business window that its just kids being kids.

            Otherwise adults in this neighborhood need to stand up and at least SAY something to these kids when they see something and perhaps at least one will be shamed out of shameless behavior.

          • gb girl

            come on give me a break if he is too afraid to yell hey at the kids then he should keep his pu88y mouth shut when it comes to the woman who was definitely wronged!!

          • anonymous

            why not? all the parents did it as kids and they do it with the kids on halloween still.

          • Annonymous

            GBPOA does nothing except have meetings which now are pointless because no one is allowed into

          • Me

            Well At least Dan Let’s us Know What is Going on in our Neighborhood!!! It is up to the people to change it!!! Yes some people on here throw stones where they don’t belong But I Think it is a good way to get the truth out there to the people that GIVE A SH T!!! These kids are out of control.. It doesn’t matter if it is 2 or 15 that are the leaders The Fact is They Are Doing it as a Group!!! Kids can be Kids as you say But No at others expense!!! Dan I May Not Agree With everything You Post But Thank You For Being The Only One to Come Forward To Help Get the Word out About These Kids!!!!

  • been there

    hey really i am not suprised happen to many time over the years these kids are just stupid i have my windows broken been paintball had snowballs thrown at my house garbage thrown on my roof its sad a few kids in each age group act this way i love gb but not staying much longer and i lived there my whole life but its change the last 20 years and thats a fact sad but true

    • nonA

      This is why the neighborhood is disintergrating, People are moving out, new businesses won’t want to open here, then property values go down and then bad elements start moving in. This is the beginning of the end of Gerritsen Beach as you know it. It’s bad now but only going to get worse. So GB already has a bad rap for Halloween and an ongoing rep for racism and these kids KNOW that they will get away with all the deeds that they are commiting anytime and anywhere. I’ve spoken casually to friends and asked them if they would consider buying property in GB and their answer was “only as investment property but not to live there”. And I asked them why? Their reply was that they’ve heard of all these negative aspects and it wasn’t for them. It’s a simmering pot, someone is going to seriously get hurt if things don’t change. Wheter it’s an innocent store owner, pedestrian, city bus driver or even a mother walking with a baby. No one is safe as long as these punks aren’t straightened out. Mark my words, and you know it to be true. I wouldn’t blame this poor woman is she closed up shop and left the area. She is providing a service to the area and shouldn’t have to put up with this BS.

  • Kelly

    We can tell the parents to take care of their Kids etc etc.Remember the fruit does not fall far from the tree.The parents were no better at the kids age. I know of long time residents of the Beach who are leaving because of the Slum that the Beach has turned into.As far as the others go they refuse to accept what is going on and think the Utopia is unchanged.

    • Anonymous

      The beach is no way near a slum. The white kids are misbehaving and a few parents and the police stepping up should take care of it.

      • Kelly

        Keep believing that Pal.A slum does not only mean run down buildings,The Beach is turning morally into a slum.

      • nonA

        lets experiment. next time you see one of these kids step out of line, you call the cops and see how long it takes for them to respond and how far your complaint will go.

    • nonA

      Because what you see as a slum, they do see it as their Utopia…..

  • dvsness

    Aren’t these kids involved in any extracurricular activities? Honestly, when I was that age, I didn’t have time for so much trouble – between schoolwork and sports, I was too busy. I also fail to see how any of this behavior is even fun. What’s enjoyable about harassing people?

  • Where's the Pride?

    White, mostly Irish kids, are destroying the neighborhood. I can’t wait until more Jews, Russian, Chinese and Indian professionals with some positive values and parenting abilities move in.

    • MoMan 1

      You got that right. White Trash,The funny thing is these idiots are proud of it.

      • Kelly

        Why would they want to move into an area infested with prejudice and ignorance.

        • Anonymous

          Because it’s a nice area that can be made even nicer with the right mix of people.

          • Kelly

            The right mix of people,I agree with that.To bad most of the Bigots think if your not White Irish a Cop/Fireman or Sanitation worker you don’t belong in the Beach.

          • sorry for you all

            Kelly : I am interested in your thoughts on what would be
            the right “mix” of people in your mind ? Who would make the
            decision on when the “mix’ was right ? You ? It seems to me that
            this kind of social engineering has been tried in our schools and
            did nothing but cause chaos…This type of socialist thinking, was
            also tried in Europe in the 1930’s and lead to a disaster.. You
            seem to resent White Irish Cop/Fireman or Sanitation workers..
            Would you accept Black or Asian Cop/Fireman or Sanitation workers ?
            I mean is the employment that bothers you. Or the ethnic makeup ?
            And if you think Jewish,Russian,Chinese, or Indian professionals
            would better the neighborhood. What percentage of each would be
            acceptable to you ? And how would you eliminate the Irish who now
            occupy the area ? Just as another question if you are not
            originally from here ? Where did either you or your racist Parents
            run from Flatbush.,to escape the Blacks or some other area to
            escape another ethnic group ?

          • Perhaps the reason these kids taunt the Chinese woman is because they see her as sub-human. There is no arguing that GB is an all-white community. If you walk around you don’t see the many different types of faces you would see in other areas. I don’t think these kids — the taunters — are being taken out of the area from time to time — to show them that the world is not what they may think it is. And how do the parents of the taunting children refer to Chinese, and other minority people, in their own homes? These kids have to have some feeling of empowerment to do the things they do.

          • Giabombo

            How do they think is making all their clothes,Video games etc.. The Chinese thats who.

          • Annonymous

            They have no empoerment and they are all punks who are trying to do what we did years ago but they are afraid to leave the neighborhood

          • nonA

            First you have to get rid of the cancer first. Cut it out right at the source…..prove to other people that they can integrate into the community without fear of harassment and racism. Till you abate the parasites this will never happen. The police pretty much neglects this area for GB residents to defend themselves.

  • Anonymous

    GB is proving the Broken windows theory (which trainman taught me)

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Broken_windows_theory

  • Giabombo

    For a problem thats not a problem it sure seems everyone is commenting. Very Interesting to say the least.

    • nonA

      Not a problem? try putting yourself in the shoes of the
      store owner. What would you do if what she says is happening is
      happening to you? I guess you would just take it in stride and just
      go about trying to run a business while kids are locking you in
      your own store. How would it feel and what would you do if some
      punk kid made racial remarks to you? You must be livingh in never
      never land.

    • anonymous

      sure your name isn’t Giabimbo?

    • Paul

      If it happened even only once, it is a problem. How would you liked to locked in you store or business just once and then you would think about every time you open your business? Kind of scarry, isn’t it!

  • As an award-winning journalist and 25 year veteran of the news business — I have to hand it to Dan Cavanaugh. Everything he writes is factual. It’s not the website that has the problem — it’s the comments part. Go look at the Daily News or NY Post sites — the comments there are even worse. But as a journalist I applaud Danny. I’ve never met him, don’t know him, I’m only judging from the content of his news site. It is documented and accurate — better than many “mainstream” news organizations. Attacking him or gerritsenbeach.net is attaking the messenger rather than confronting the problem.

  • anon

    R U KIDDING? Did you read the opening paragraph?? I will quote,

    “The vandals are closing the security gates (essentially locking everyone inside) and throwing objects into the store and at the owner. People are worried that this may be a potential hate crime in the making because the owner is a Chinese woman and the vandalism does not happen when others are manning the store”

    A real journalist would not write “People are worried that this may be a potential hate crime” WHAT PEOPLE??? This sounds like the writer is trying to incite!

    • What people? The people that the reporter spoke to. You may think it’s inciting? So if I report “people are worried that North Korea may be able to launch a nuclear missile to the California coast,” I then am inciting nuclear war. We are talking about kids who are taunting this woman. The next step could be violence. And the reporter is acutually doing a great service to the taunters who I am sure have no idea that there are such things as hate crimes, and the potential for loooooooooooooong prison sentences. And paramount in this exchange, as has been expressed many time on this space, is that residents are more concerned about a journalist trather than what’s going on in their neighborhood. YOU chose to pick a few words that you didn’t like — but never mentioned the taunters, the possibility of any kind of racial context, or that people may be put in danger by the actions of the taunters.

  • I dont’ like getting involved in (internal) neighborhood squabbles,but if it takes the police 45 mins to respond to a call…..the pct commander should be made aware of this…it is totally un-acceptable!!

  • anonymous

    It is sad that young obnoxious bastards are tormenting a hard working family and nobody does anything about it. Not the police, not the parents nor the community. We should be ashamed of ourselves. Do we want businesses driven from the neighborhood by a bunch of fools? Are empty storefronts better than what is there?
    I use the laundromat and the lady, her children and her staff are polite and pleasant. We need more like them.

    • gb girl

      so honestly as a community what can we do to help without getting the psycho moms on all our backs trying to say we are harassing their angels? I would help in any positive way I could but just dont know what to do!

      • nonA

        If your not scared of a raving lunatic mother or father of one of these kids calling you a pervert for taking a picture of them committing a crime , than snap a picture or video, then call the cops( and pray that they respond ). And when and if they do, provide them with the evidence. And while your waiting for the cops try to reassure the victim that not all of the people in GB are A**holes.

      • I can tell you what to do.This really is not going to go over to well,but its called an eye for an eye. Sell or Rent your home to a Black Family and than watch how these Blacks handle the roving teens.

  • I’m wondering if Dan has considered a lawsuit against the woman who called him a pedophile, on video and at a public meeting. She was talking about seeking legal remedies for what she thought were the illegal activities of Dan photographing people. It is totally legal to photograph someone who is in public and put it on a website. As long as you don’t lie about anything, you’re safe. However, the woman at the meeting asserted that it was her opinion that Dan is a pedophile. If she has proof of him being a pedophile, she’s fine. Otherwise, she could be sued for slander, defamation of character, assuming it is proven that the statement caused damage to Dan’s good name. And for the other guy who was ranting at the meeting, after going on a diatribe, he then tells the photographer not use the video. Does he really think he has the right to tell someone not to use video taken of him – AT A PUBLIC MEETING? This is what gets me — there seems to be very little — well — knowledge — whether it’s the criminal law, civil law or freedom of the press.

  • BklynGal

    Where is the big mouth blowhard bully that tried to shut down the property meeting. She is nowhere to be found when her spawn is out terrorizing a working person in the community. This consistent sociopathic behavior shows that that her parenting style has produced a sadistic predator.

    Makes me wonder what goes on in the privacy of her home……

  • UnknownN

    Thank god I’m moving soon! This area has gone downhill fast. I just don’t understand the parents, how can you defend these misfits? I remember growing up, if anyone told my parents I was acting up, I was a dead man. It won’t be long before the beach makes the papers again for some stupid crime.

    • anonymous

      It’s gonna be a buyers market in GB! The slum lords can’t wait for another neighborhood to go under and pick up properties on the cheap! Remember Canarsie? Well GB is gonna have it’s own residents to blame and not the real estate agency this time….lol

  • anonymous

    I am tired of all this “white kid crap” they are not doing this because they are white, they are doing it because they are little A– Hole-s … I am sure that their parents don’t even know that they are bothering this poor woman …… most of these parents are not following there 13 and 14 year olds around and spying on them, or reading this web site… Get real …

    • gb girl

      maybe the parents should be following their 13 an 14 year olds especially after watching them terrorize a neighborhood on video. I’m sure the parents know alot but like they said on video they did it too when they were young. The mentality has to change. Does she think she think she turned out so great??? She don’t want better for her kids??

    • anonymous

      they’re hillbillies…..lol…GB sucksss

    • anonymous

      boo hoo.. it wasnt any other color

  • Frank

    I am a long time resident down here and I am ashamed to have purchased a home here and to have moved my family here. While growing up here my friends and I did stupid things but when we were caught by adults and brought home to our parents the situation was corrected. The problems were corrected because my parents talked to the adults listened to them and took appropriate measures, they did not fight with the adults and say “Not my son”. Yes sometimes it is embarrassing as a parent but only if you let it continue. Listen to the neighborhood, don’t take offense take action and Please make this once again the great neighborhood that I know. Stop the bull

    • Frank

      by the way if anyone disagrees with me then please buy my house and I will gladly move

      • Kelly

        Frank,
        Ditto for me. Why fight it ,time to go see Doreen Greenwood and sell before the word gets wide spread about the Getto of Gerritsen Beach.

        • gb girl

          its really crazy that a bunch for little minors are ruining a neighborhoods whole reputation…they need to be freaking locked in their rooms with their ipods computers an phones taken away for a week. Lets see the power of punishment!!

          • anonymous

            The reason the reputation of GB is so bad is because of all the media attention it is getting….Hey maybe it’s good than no one will want to move in and we can keep our neighborhood the way we like it.

          • anon

            to many non whites here already. get them out!

        • anonymous

          dont be the last one on the block to sell……

        • anonymous

          too late everyone knows that GB is a ghetto already. thats y propety values even near the water is below average.

    • trainman

      Kelly, UnknownN and Frank: You people need to calm down and
      get a grip on things. You’re not going to let a few BRATS who think
      they reinvented what being wild is all about, dictate to you how to
      live your lives. I go back to the early 60s, and believe me when I
      say this, that nothing bad happening now is anything new. I
      remember in the early 60s coming into GB to pick up my then
      girlfriend and seeing a sign prominently displayed on a utility
      pole in front of PS 277 declaring “Nigger’s and Spics keep out”. It
      was up for a few days before a brave soul climbed up and removed
      it. A few months after that, during the summer, some upstanding
      citizens standing in front of bars (social clubs) along the Avenue
      decided it would be fun to toss bricks and rocks at Puerto Ricans
      (we didn’t use the word Hispanic in those days ) leaving the beach
      in their automobiles from an afternoon up in the Weeds sunning by
      the water. In the next few years that followed there was an
      incident with bikers coming into the beach that involved a priest
      from Resurrection Church being injured while trying to mediate
      between the two opposing parties. I don’t recall the particulars
      but I’m sure it involved the same mentality that’s causing the
      problems today. We survived then and we will survive now. Frank if
      you are the Frank I am thinking of, you don’t have to worry about
      your son growing up in GB. Any father who spends as much time with
      their children as you spend with your Son doesn’t have to worry
      about them going out tormenting people or idly hanging out in parks
      and being so bored they have to pick on some unfortunate store
      owners, who can’t defend themselves, just to make their life seem
      important. Your ongoing care, concern and interest in your son’s
      well-being will allow him to grow up and understand there’s so much
      more to life than to mirror the bad behavior of our local
      troublemakers. The misdirected kids will grow up just like the
      previous generations have and one day they’re going to look in the
      mirror and realize they have nothing to do and nothing new to say
      to anyone because, aided by the apathy of their parents, they chose
      lives void of any substance or purpose.

      • anonymous

        move out…..

      • anonymous

        Trainman : As usual postings on this site go in all directions Just to set the record straight on the biker incident they got a lot less than they deserved… It all started when the biker gang came to have a beach party, which turned into the making of a porno film.. While some of the GB teenagers of the day stood and watched the filming with great interest…Some of the bikers grabbed 2 or 3 of them and smacked them around a little..The Beach being what it was back then, these kids told thier older brothers, who told thier cousins,etc. well, you get the picture… The idiot biker gang never realized there was only one way in and one way out…As they tried to leave GB people from all over the old section were waiting on Gerittsen Ave for them.. Bikes were wrecked and the bikers got beat with pipes and rocks One of them died…They threatened to come back and burn the neighborhood to the ground…We had a Police response like you would’nt believe Motorcycles, Tacticial Patrol Force, Horses everything the PD had was here.. Not to protect us, but to save those idiot bikers from all going home in boxes.. It was nowhere near the same “mentality” you mention It was GB protecting itself from harm not from inside but from outside…We were willing to share the neighborhood with anyone, as long as you did’nt abuse we who live here.

        • trainman

          As I said anonymous, I was wasn’t familiar with the Beach at the time so I did not know all the particulars. Obviously, I bow to your experience.
          Perhaps you could enlighten me about the previous two incidents I mentioned, as well.

          • anonymous

            I never saw any signs that you alluded to posted by 277…
            I did see those signs in 1963-64 while in the southern U.S. Coming
            from up north, I thought to myself “These people must be kidding”
            They were not…As far as the Puerto Ricans I don’t know. I do know
            we had a Puerto Rican family living in the old section and I never
            witnessed any racial discrimination against them…And it has been
            my life experience. that Racial and Ethnic groups tend to stay
            together. Italians like to live by other Italians…Jewish people
            want to live in a Jewish area..Just because GB is mostly Irish/
            German does not make us racist. As a matter of fact I think it
            makes us just like everyone else.. We feel more at home with those
            we know.that is a social fact .And for that, I will not be placed
            on a guilt trip by wild, unsubstantiated stories about wide spread
            racial or ethnic discrimination here…As a matter of fact in one
            of Dans other great race baiting stories, a few months back… It
            turned out that the Black children were being escorted out of the
            beach, after trying to steal bicycles from White children… Or the
            one about cell phones being taken from White children by Black
            children, one of whom produced the butt of a pistol to make his
            point… I like Kerrin O’Neill am fed up with all the nonesense
            bashing of this area….

          • Anonymous

            Finally, a reasonable post. What do you think of them all blaming the lack of businesses on the Ave on the kids? The reason that businesses have a problem staying open on the Ave is that the ‘Kelly’s’ of the beach drive by and go to the mall.

          • Kelly

            Think so ? FYI I always patronize local merchants. I guess posting the truth does not go over to well here. The Mall ,I hope you are not referring to Kings Plaza AKA Planet of the Apes.Look at it this way,If people are not concerned about this situation,Why are there so many posts ? May I add there are many “Kelly’s” as you put it in the Beach. Any more bright thoughts?

          • kerrin o'neill

            really kelly? …”planet of the apes”? how bourgeois of you… is that suppose to mean somthing-please explain

          • Anonymous

            Yeah, really Kelly? On a Jan. 4th post Kelly called the neighborhood bigots! What a hypocrite!

          • Kelly

            Like that Ha !!

          • trainman

            Anonymous, January 6, 1:12 AM

            I very much remember those two incidents I mentioned as does my wife and my brother-in-law, who also lives in the Beach. (He said he recalls the sign being closer to Ave. W. and Allen Avenue)

            I did not mention those incidents to exasperate the situation we’re having here today. I just wanted to point out to a number of people whose solution to our problems is to pack up and leave that, at times, things were much worse than they are today. We’ve always had problems here….it’s just that the knowledge of these incidents are becoming readily available to more people today because of computer access.

            I also want to state that I’ve been living here over 35 years and I’ve grown to be not only fond of our community, I also appreciate the value of it and I think it’s going to take a lot more than a few punks to bring us down.

          • anonymous

            Trainman : So that makes 3 of you who saw the sign and Kelly who “seems to remember some of what you say ” For a grand total of 4. I was just pointing out that things were not much worse then they are today…In my mind it was better then…We did’nt always have problems here, If we did, it would have made no sense for people, like yourself, to move into such a troubled area. It defies logical thinking to place your loved ones in harms way…Most of what I read in the postings would seem to come from a hardcore group of White/Irish, City Worker bashing types who get some kind of gratifacation draging us all into their definition of Racism…I don’t mean you, but others who go way to far and are really part of the problem.. And not any part of the solution..

          • anonymous

            Yes the sign was at Gerritsen and Bijou I remember it clearly, that was one hot summer!

          • Anonymous

            It was 50 years ago!!!! It was before/during those awful days in the 60’s where we were all confronted with the unforgettable images of what was going on down South. The 60’s were a decade that the world grew up, were confronted with the truths and had to come to grips with EVERYONES civil rights. It’s hard to believe for the younger kids, but TV was new and the news clips were shocking to all. It brought it all, the VietNam War, The Civil Rights movement all into our living rooms. You have to remember that back then almost ALL of Brooklyn was “white”. Flatbush was Irish, Italian, Jewish. Brownsville was Jewish. You need to put this all in perspective. It has nothing to do with the way people feel now. No one would tolerate a sign like that now. It wouldn’t take ‘a brave soul’ to take it down. It would take a brave ‘nut job’ to put it up. But I, like everyone else, work with all kinds of people and viva la differance! But at the end of the day there is nothing wrong with them wanting to be in their own neighborhoods, where the stores and restaurants cater to them, where the music sold and played is what they like, and there is nothing wrong with us being the same. Thank G-d the awful, turbulent 60’s are over.

        • Frank

          unfortunatelly that was the old neighborhood Now they call 311 if you change the siding on your house

          • anonymous

            Yes, Frank it is unfortunate that everyone thinks they are a Lawyer, or a Journalist, or a Superhero…

          • Anonymous

            Your right about that, Frank. This is what the recent additions to the neighborhood are doing to it. A bunch of whiners and tattletales. Every generation has a group of kids that go too far and for anyone that wonders what ‘taking care of our own’ means, sometimes when a particular kid or group is going overboard they would sometimes need to be taken in a car, maybe backweeds or somewhere and have a gun stuffed in their mouth while being read the riot act. Our own version of scared straight. It always worked. But with all the whining, 311, 911, picture taking, blogging etc. this is no longer possible.

        • gb girl

          what year was this I never heard it before but I am very interested in hearing more.

      • Frank

        You brought a tear to my eye and I thank you, my fear is that a lot of these other parents don’t really care or they are afraid of being embarrassed that their children have done something wrong and continue to stay in denial. The constant fighting amongst the neighborhood will indefinately tear us apart and leave us vulnerable for the aftermath. Unless the Parents get together and stop Blaming everyone else this will be worse than it was in the 60’s…problem is no one is listening

      • Kelly

        Trainman,
        I remember some of what you are talking about. Great post Buddy.Puts things in a better perspective.

  • If the Shoe Fits...

    Why doesn’t the neighborhood get a Neighborhood Watch type group going? Isn’t there some sort of auxiliary security or something that could be arranged, at least for the interim?

    It sounds like this is happening on a weekly basis if not daily. Since the police seem to not have the response time exected, rather than taking an adversarial position, can’t someone talk about creating a supplemental enforcement situation in the neighborhood?

    Just like the Vollies, and the GBFD, couldn’t there also be an “anti-crime” or “quality of life” volunteer group? (Maybe someone could speak to the Guardian Angels?) If people know they are being watched, then they are less likely to participate in the criminal activity. It would certainly be a deterrant.

    The retail stores on the Avenue, might want to form their own Business Improvement District, to install some cameras or surveillance on the avenue as a way to assist police.

    The GBPOA needs to speak to the schools about having “values/ ethics” seminar. I don’t know if community service is a requirement in the local schools but it should be…if people have to clean it or maintain it, they’re less likely to wreck it.) Doesn’t have to be a course, but something that encourages and rewards community service acheivements.

    I see a lot of complaining, etc, and unfortunately, ALL the teenagers of Gerritsen Beach are getting painted with the same brush, because of the actions of some. The fact that two kids can do something and have an audience of 15 of their peers should tell the community that there’s not enough supervised activities to serve the community. So… GBPOA should be talking about how to provide after school/ off school activities.

    It shouldn’t be everyone else’s responsibility to raise someone’s kids. However, the problem doesn’t just go away by pointing fingers at people who despite their best efforts (We’re going to give them the benefit of the doubt, here.) don’t have the best skills to deal with these issues.

    I used to have a business in the area, and while it did fairly well, local vandalism / crime was an issue. One kid was caught throwing a bottle at the front window of the business, and the window broke. I was told I couldn’t do anything because it was “so and so’s” kid and because I didn’t want to risk the loss of business by expecting that kid and his family to reimburse me.

    You’re going to have to make up your minds. You can’t just castigate the police when they don’t respond as quickly as you’d like, while 1) allowing the problem to exist, and 2) assisting the problem by not talking to the police when they do get there.

    Recently, one local resident was arrested for interfering with police who had stopped two teens outside her house on a moving violation. More people have to get onboard with stopping the problem and being vocal about it, because until they do, the “Not My Kid” Party will be determining the moral landscape of the neighborhood.

    • anonymous

      she should hire some outside teens to F*%k these punks up…

    • anonymous

      you could probably get some crack heads dirt cheap to mess them up!

    • anonymous

      good for her stupid ass…lol. lock em all up!!!

      • Anonymous

        why must it always disintergrate instead of coming up with reasonable answers?

        • Frank

          A reasonable answer would be for parents who cannot control their kids to come to a meeting and ask for help…rather than blame everything on everyone else and say not my kid. Enough already we are adults just simply take responsibility. Kids will be kids there is no embarrassment here, but we need to teach them

    • anon

      I agree with most of what you said….unfortunately one seminar on ethics and morals will not do the trick. It has to be followed up with at home morals and ethics!……I am not saying when my children were growing up they were angels. I am saying if there was a problem and I was told about it that we followed up and there were consequences!!! Not enough parent involvement and we look to our schools to fill PARENTS responsibility……

  • Parent of little ones

    What about starting a gb community volunteer watch armed with digital and video cameras. You would use your own vehicle, so these brats have no idea who is the one watching them. Everyone who volunteers gets put on a revolving schedule with others and drives the neighborhood during trouble times lilke after school and evenings, and the weekends. When you see something like this, snap a photo and call the police. If everyone that cares volunteers even just a few hours a week, maybe this will stop because there will be more photos of these little darlings on this page, and maybe even the news again. Maybe it will make the parents stand up and act like parents so as not to be further embarrassed.

    • anonymous

      rats….. more cameras, cant we just fun anymore?

      • Frank

        I am sorry but Fun is not breaking bus windows, Fun is not terrorizing loal merchants, fun is not doing what you kids do! How about playing sports, riding bmx, cub scouts, etc.. No lets destroy shit where we live boy isn’t that fun (sarcasim)

    • Frank

      I am in but just not capable of organizing it due to my work schedule. Go to the cort club because they are a powerful organization who should have no problem organizing something like this. Set up a meeting and send out flyers.

    • anon

      The only problem: Being called a pedophile by the wonderful parents…

  • Anonymous

    This harassment of the laundromat has been going on for a long time.I only go in there to do comforters and blankets.About a year ago while I was in there a group of kids came in and started throwing things around.I have high blood pressure and a heart condition.I became so frightened because I thought it could possibly be a robbery because all I could hear was the commotion and and hollering .I almost had a heart attack.

  • Giabombo

    Here is a great suggestion. Everyone on here who is concerned about our neighborhood.Lets get a collection going and hire some Big Security guards.Put them in the place and next time these punks come in grab them and hold them for the Police. We could inform the 61st Pct what we are going to do. I am in. How about the rest of you concerned neighbors.? Lets stop F—ing around with these punks and put an end to this BS once and for all. How about it ?

    • Watching

      Neighborhood Watch

    • anonymous

      u bully…

    • Frank

      I am in you pay for it

      • Kelly

        Come on Frank kick up a few bucks. Bombo is right.Lets address the problem and end it NOW !!!!!!

        • Frank

          Giabombo owns devon to florence or something like that they
          can afford it unless I am mistaken. Or we could turn to
          Danzas…point is there are families down here with money that are
          just cheap!!

          • joe g

            frank, I have three store fronts. The plaster place, My store and the corner store across from the Baggle place. What you have to understand is that there is money on paper only, which means there is no real money It like a I owe you and then there is cash money. No one takes an IOU anymore.

          • ANON

            why doesn’t joe g shovel the side of his building on everett ave? He does’nt even shovel around the hydrant in case of a fire and who does he have in his pocket that lets him get away with it.Someone is not doing their job.Time for someone to be held accountable.

          • joe g

            Aron I did shovel it. more then once,When they cleaned the Ave,they put the snow on that side. If you look at the hydrant you will see a path to it and the connection dug out. It was under a mound of ice and snow over six feet high. Who do I have in my pocket? If I had as much power as you think I do,I’d be out there running for the Mayor of Gerrittsen Beach.

          • Kelly

            Hey Joey, How about cutting loose with a few bucks and buy a Snow Blower and keep your sidewalks snow free. I have a Snow Blower for my 50′ X 6″ of sidewalk in front of my house..Community spirit Take only when you give to the community.

          • joe g

            lol Kelly if I could I would, I’m a little older then most people think and pushing all that snow gets to me. I was told by sanitation that the store owners aren’t allowed to push snow into the street and because I’m at a bus stop, I can’t pile it up there, so a snow blower doesn’t do me much good . but I do feel that I’ve done a good job of it. Take care

          • joe g

            ok Aron its 2:57. I shoved in front of the three stores, A path to the bus stop, along Everett ave, around the fire hydrant (thank god the hill is now only four feet high)and a path from the hydrant to the street. I cleared the snow from the sewer drains in short I think I did everything that you wanted, but to fair Aron I took a ride around the beach . there are many fire hydrants still covered with snow and walk ways not cleared. I think its unfair that you hold me to a higher standard then others in the community. we’re all human and make mistakes or forget to do thing. Like I said before I’m just one person and I’m trying to do the best I can. one last thing I don’t mind hearing other peoples ideas but when did this string become The Joe G write in Show. Danny C I think we should talk about salary and maybe a guess or two . Be well

    • gb girl

      why cant the parents do something???? That is what the real problem is the lack of parenting…kids will always push the envelope to see what they can get away. And look how well they are doing. I bet myself included wouldnt say any of this to the parents if we randomly saw them in the street or store.

  • Just B. Cause

    Years ago I was a soccer coach and I was a cubmaster and I knew many young boys and girls.
    In the ensuing years I have either come across them or have heard about them from those that know them.
    I can say how impressed I am at the accomplishments of so many of these kids that are adults now.
    Ex; Members of the Police, FireFighters, Sanitation, Medical Profession, Legal Profession, Businees World and the Military and etc..
    You know them also. I got involved in the community and they were involved in their community.
    I offer this as an example of an accomplishment that can be achieved again.

  • Kelly

    If the shoe & Giabombos Suggestions are on the Money. How about it Folks lets get to it. I’m In as well.

  • Giabombo

    So Neighbors are we just going to talk and complain about this,or do something.? How about a meeting ,Lets do Something once and for all.

    • If The Shoe Fits....

      I would think that every renter and property owner, civic club and commercial location would want to be included. The police precinct should be communicated with, as the neighborhood is looking to be partners with them…I’m CERTAIN they could help get a program like this set up.

      Anonymous 5:54pm…”more cameras?” Cameras are installed in almost every mobile phone and device that people carry these days.

      It’s kind of like a campaign. You know how “Just Say No” and “If You See Something, Say Something” became slogans that everyone knows and understands….it’s going to sound silly perhaps (I can’t wait to see the comments on this) but there needs to be a slogan that says something about being proud of the Beach and protective of it.

      What is it supposed to mean to be from the Beach? (Anything goes? It’s just the Beach?..) What kind of neighborhood is it? What kind of people are we raising? It’s not just about chasing mobs of kids with pitchforks…it’s about being a presence of dignity in the neighborhood. Sooner or later, kids won’t be doing bad things not because they don’t want to get caught, because it wouldn’t be cool to do it. ENLIST the kids to help. THEY know who’s causing the trouble and when they’re going to cause it. It just needs to stop being “cool” to randomly break stuff and to hurt people. Someone’s got to know how to start up some after school programs or clubs to keep these kids busy as well.

      There really is a LOT that can be done.

    • anonymous

      move…..

  • All this talk of neighborhood watch is great — but what about the NYPD? My thought would be to get together and attend a monthly community precinct meeting and demand that the NYPD handle the problems. You know in other neighborhoods the NYPD will quickly erect a tower with the NYPD logo emblazoned on it with a camera atop it. Or park the big NYPD truck that they put in other troubled places. It says “this is where we bring little punks to process them for arrrest”. I hate big brother — and I don’t like to see those cameras. But if it’s the solution to a set of problems in one ,why not another? I think having a high concentration of civil workers living in the neighborhood is both a blessing and burden. Yes, it makes you feel safer, as anytime you know there’s a cop around. But it also brings with it the problems, such as “we take care of our own, stay among ourselves and defend each other no matter the circumstances.” We all pay taxes — why not demand from our government, that they provide the services for which our taxes are collected. Now I know a lot of people are not going to want that big video tower on Gerritsen Ave. I wouldn’t want it on my block. But it seems that some tough choices need to be made.

    • Anonymous

      the 61 community meeting is always the 2nd wednesday of the month, maybe a few of you should go the the property owners meetings as well, our local cops are usually there too. They meet every 1st wednesday of the month

  • kerrin o'neill

    i read most of the replies…so most of you are above the crowd and your revenge will be to rent to black folks and sell your house???hire other teenagers to beat gb teens up?? and a watch group?? ok a watch group is a good idea

    how about being friendly and getting to know your neighbors this way you COULD tell your neighbor what their kid was caught doing…and they can tell you what yours was doing without hard feelings…

    and truthfully the white trash/irish trash/degrading the cops and fireman is getting annoying…the truth is people like this area bc it is irish and white(GASP)…otherwise sheepshead bay is just as lovely and so is marine park and brighton.

    • anonymous

      “people like this area bc it is irish and white”……LMAO….hahaha

      • Well there you Gerritsen Beach. We like it cause it’s White and Irish. And in the 2006 racial attack — the defense was that it was just a bunch of kids fighting. Right.

    • Anonymous

      Glad that it’s white but sucks that it’s ignorant Irish.

      They throw trash around, don’t pick up after their dogs, break bus stops, get caught on video breaking into stores, pelt women and the elderly with potatoes, rocks and eggs, harass property owners, smoke and sell marijuana, drink beers openly, and get protection from their police friends and family that live in the area.

    • Kelly

      Because its Irish and white,What have you been smoking ? I would not Brag about being Irish.Do a little research about Tammany Hall Pal.

      • kerrin o'neill

        Kelly if that was directed at me, first let me say i smoke nothing-what do you smoke?

        Second, if you are irish please DONT brag about it-i wouldn’t want anyone to know we are of the same genetic pool.

        And lets be real for a moment, if you are not from here why did you buy a house here?…hmmmm lets think this out for a minute-well its not for the booming shopping on gerritsen ave, its not for the fabulous, and quick commute to nyc, its certainly not the quality zoned high school…hmmm lets think… if i was an outsider looking to buy a home,… i would buy in an area i felt SAFE, was CLEAN, had nice people living here(mostly irish, mostly all white like it or not), affordable private homes, near the water, oh and off the grid.

        If your willing to downgrade this neighborhood (which i love) to a slum bc of a few rowdy KIDS who cant act decent in a crowd, then your someone who lives in the negative. I chose to live in the positive-your simply not my cup of tea my friend.

        • Kelly

          Kerrin, First of all it was not directed at you. Second no one is trying to downgrade the neighborhood.On the other hand this type of behavior in my book is not a good thing for the reputation of the beach. Does this not bother you ? Or are you just willing to look the other way ? As far as being from the same pool,don’t worry about that.My upbringing and origin does not include drinking Budweiser on a regular basis at and early age.Living in the Positive goes both ways,Acting in a respectful and considerate manner wouldn’t you agree. My outrage is that the Parents as well as neighbors are willing to accept this type of behavior.This is my home as well as it is yours,I respect yours,you respect mine.To bad these ill parented kids don’t understand this.No one is trying to ruin this neighborhood at all,I would just like to see it get better.These type or things will not allow it to get better only worse.

          • kerrin o'neill

            does it bother me that a gaggle of teenage boys are
            harassing an honest working woman in their own home? Absolutely do
            i wanna feel afraid passing groups of teenagers on the ave? No and
            truthfully im not afraid of any of these kids and neither should
            you. you see kelly, my kids are still babies (2.5 and 1) most of my
            friends kids are babies too as well…but i know my friends kids
            and they know mine. So as an adult of future teenagers, a boy and a
            girl, i pray that if my kids do anything stupid, disrespectful and
            or immoral on the avenue-that another adult wouldnt hesitate to
            tell me. Not bash me or my heritage on the internet/gossip blog and
            call the neighborhood a slum. but thats me. Im a good neighbor. i
            have no problem telling anyone if their child is in a dangerous
            situation, and i also have not problem telling a parent if their
            child does somthing that could cause trouble.

          • anonymous

            Give it up Kelly…….things will never change for the better here. The mentality is too ingrained into some people and will never be able to see right and wrong for all people. They just see what’s right for themselves. Trying to straighten out GB is a lost cause. Since your planning on moving anyway, maybe think about moving sooner than later because the property values doesn’t look like it will appreciate any time soon, maybe go down more.

        • Anonymous

          she hates blacks too.That’s why she does’nt like the mall

  • BklynGal

    It seems to me that these savages have targeted this Asian
    woman for harassment and violence based on her race and the fact
    that she is a woman? They should be charged with a BIAS CRIME and
    Riot and their parents, who have been apprised of their behavior on
    multiple occassions, shuold be sued for damages. 240.06 Riot in the
    first degree. A person is guilty of riot in the first degree when
    (a) simultaneously with ten or more other persons he engages in
    tumultouous and violent conduct and thereby intentionally or
    recklessly causes or creates a grave risk of causing public alarm,
    and (b) in the course of and as a result of such conduct, a person
    other than one of the participants suffers physical injury or
    substantial property damage occurs. Riot in the first degree is a
    class E felony.

  • Anonymous

    you people are mad at the wrong person, its cavanugh that
    is ruining the rep or gb, he is mamking it seem worse then it
    is

  • Giabombo

    I wish all the Anonymous posters would have the guts to post your names.It seems that all the Anons are making the most noise about how this is really not happening in Good Old White Gerritsen Beach. ie; I never seen or heard any discriminating against ethnic groups. Well I guess if your eyes are shut or its your Kids ,you would not see any would any of you .

    • kerrin o'neill

      alot of people without their names posted are also trash talking the neighborhood…hiding behind a computer screen makes it easy on both sides to get nasty

    • Anonymous

      My eyes aren’t shut to the drug and alchohol fueled raves/wrestling that take place behind the gates of your closed up properties. Glad to see that they are integrated! lol, talk about people who shouldn’t cast the first stone! Your a big boy, why don’t you walk down the block from your Paintball Emporium and help chase away the kids bothering the woman in the Laundrymat?

      • Giabombo

        True I am a Big Boy…Thats why these Punks don’t bother me…BTW Anon How about you and a few of the others behind the Keyboards come along ? We could take care of this real quick. I will bring a few paint balls so you all could see who these punks are with blotches all over their backs as they are running away.

      • Giabombo

        Cat got your tongue ?

      • joe g

        ) I own the paintball store, not this person who is using
        the name Gabombo. .2) I’m friends with the woman and have helped
        her just as I have help many other, I just don’t pound my chest
        like some people do. I have been approached several time in the
        last year by outside groups wanting to rent store fronts on the Ave
        for purposes that I think would not benefit the beach, If there is
        to be a teen center down here I would prefer that it be connected
        some how to the GBPOA or some other Gerrittsen Beach group and not
        a outside group that doesn’t care about the people and just want to
        control the area. I was told that I would be sorry, so I guess this
        is them trying to discredit me . All I can say to them is you must
        not come from the beach. down here there are no secrets. After
        seeing a report on CNN about back yard wrestling, I used money out
        of my own pocket to try to make it safe for these kids. Raves ?
        there were none but I did say that I would like to have something
        like a rehearsal hall for the bands in Gerrittsen Beach. Gated
        stores? all stores have gates. the corner store is up for rent so
        anyone that wants to take a look, come see me. To all the residents
        of G. B. just because some coward uses a nick name that hasn’t been
        used in 40 years, please don’t assume that it me. like I always say
        if you want to know something ,come see me Thank you. Joe
        Giordano

        • Anonymous

          To tell you the truth Joey,your properties are quite the eye soar.It would be nice to see some clean family oriented business open up on the Avenue. By that I mean Not Tattoo Parlors and Paint Ball Ranges. BTW I have not heard that name for many years. Were you Really called Bombo sort of like Bimbo with an O. LOL

          • joe g

            Hey I do the best I can. The bricks are steam cleaned every year, gates are painted as needed and the buildings are keep in good repair. not bad for one guy. I like the old brick look. If I wanted cheep flex metal, polly fome and plastic , I’d go to a Florida strip mall or Brighton Beach.

          • Anonymous

            Joe, (I’m not the anon above) I also appreciate the character of the old buildings. I’ve looked into card stores, but you need 500k in liquid assets before Hallmark will even talk to you. Too bad, because what the Ave needs is a card and gift shop. Also, too bad that the last one was put out of business, not by kids doing anything to them but by people going elsewhere to shop. The businesses on the Ave thrived before all the Moms started driving and leaving the Beach for more selection and better prices elsewhere. I guess that’s progress, but now they cry that there are no shops on the Ave. You can’t have it both ways. Support your community people!

          • joe g

            I had to run,so I didn’t get a chance to answer that person completely,but it was along the lines of what you said. I was born in the beach. when I was a kid there were more stores on Gerrittsen ave then houses. The church had five mass’s on Sunday that were filled and everyone walked down Gerrittsen ave. Thing change, some for good most not. Several people from the Beach have tried to open business. In the beginning things are good, but sooner or latter thing change. I feel sorry for them and try to help as much as possible but good wishes and a few friends stopping by every now and then isn’t enough to keep a business going. I wish you luck and if you do decide to give it a try , please come see me

          • Kerry Blue

            But Joe, The stores are still Vacant. The ideal situation is a few of them are Rented,this might give some life to the area,at that point maybe some of the others might be looked at by prospective business owners. The way I see it is finding a business that is both family friendly and might be successful is the challenge here.Until we, by we I mean the Residents and Business owners of the beach spruce up the Avenue it will always look like a run down blighted area. To bad we could not get a small Wendys,Taco Bell, etc to open up somewhere in the Beach (it would wake the place up a bit).

          • joe g

            Hey Kerry right now I only have one store vacant and that’s the corner store. I don’t own all the proprieties people think I do. There is a young lady in the old section that wants to open a adult dance and fitness studio with possibly a mommy and me class but that’s up in the air. Wend’s would be nice but then I’d have to consider the other food places in the area and the impact it would have on them. I agree that we need a good family oriented business . The question is what is it?will the community support it and who has the money to run it? You sound like a nice person and it was good to talk to you. thank you for your opinion it was helpful

          • Kerry Blue

            Thanks Joe ! BTW We know each other.

          • peggy

            Getting off the track for a minute, Im curious as to why so many of your buildings boarded up.

          • joe g

            I have no building boarded up , what are the address og the building , or there location ? .

    • joe g

      lol look whos talking, your pretending to be me

  • Giabombo

    200 shots $17.00

  • Anonymous

    Joey…Give it a rest will ya.

    • joe g

      its not me

      • anonymous

        oh yes it is, stop kidding around joey G.

        • joe g

          maybe its you, best way to find out is come to my store

          • Kelly

            Hey Bombo…Maybe this is someones way to get you to do something positive for the Community. LOL

          • joe g

            I guess its a complement that you would take all this time out of your life to be my Jimmy cricket or to be a little more up to date my O B one canobee and yes I know I spelled it wrong but I’m not a big star wars fan and its not on spell check so please forgive me but don’t you think it would of been better if you just walked up to me and said Hi, I’d like to talk to you about something or I’m at every GBPOA meeting you could have talk to me there.

          • Anonymous

            What are you Ranting about? OB1,Jimmy Cricket What do these two have to do wit anything.I think you might be getting a little side tracked.

  • Giabombo

    100 shots $9.00

  • Anonymous

    Keep it all in perspective folks – 11 to 12 years olds, maybe about 3 or 4 of them are doing stupid things and a handful of others are in a bit of a mob mentality. We should be tougher with these little guys now before they think they can get away with things that have the potential to tarnish the neighborhood reputation. However, potential buyers will usually drive down, and they can see for themselves what a nice community this is. If people don’t move here over this overblown BS then its their loss.

  • Anonymous

    Where did Giabombo go ?

  • Giabombo

    50 shots $5.00

  • Anonymous

    I am still trying to figure out who is who ?

  • Anonymous

    Show me a kid at 12 years old and I’ll show you the same adult at 50 years old.
    I don’t buy this “kids” excuse. A-holes are just a-holes whether they’re 10 or 100

  • Anonymous

    WE NEED TO HAVE A MEETING WITH ALL OF THESE KIDS AND EXPLAIN TO THEM THE CONSEQUENCES THAT THEY CAN FACE AS A RESULT OF THEIR ACTIONS. PARENTS JUST CAN’T LET THEIR CHILDREN OUT OF THEIR HOUSE ANYMORE. THAT’S IT!!!

  • Anonymous

    All these kids need is a little street justice walk outside with a broomstick crack one of them in the fucking head and let him run home and cry to mommy and daddy and if the parents have a problem crack them in the fucking head to Problem solved.

  • Trish

    Seriously?? Are you folks for real? Allowing the actions of these rude kids get you all bickering amongst one another is truly sad!!! Time to start acting like responsible parents and do something constructive, together. Be the parents you should be, cause arguing with one another isn’t gonna solve a thing. And for those of you who are suggesting violence to fight back, you are so far removed from getting down to the bottom of this craziness!! No wonder the kids in the Beach are so disrespectful and out of control. It all starts from their upbringing…

    If you all, as parents, can’t seem to come together to constructively to resolve these issues, well, that’s a sad commentary on all of you. And that’s a damn shame!!! Shame on you all for stooping so low.

    Come on now… be PARENTS for heaven’s sake!! Kids learn from their elders, no wonder the beach has gone crazy! Makes me sad, really. I digress…

  • older kid

    Now its the little kids who are creating havoc

  • travel2692

    All this talk is nonsense. the family that has the laundromat is being harrassed because of their race andnothing else. the terrific guy who owns the liquour store has a lot of the same issues…as does the owner of the bagel store. It is incredible what people will condone and defend…I live here for many many years, and my husband for many more…I dont like the changes or the attitudes of too many people. we need businesses on the ave to be safe…and we need to support them…before the ave turns in to a ghost town..people need to stand up when they see or hear injustice…and crime in our own neighborhood, by our own people, is on the rise…thefts, breakins..vandalism…everyone wants to blame “outsiders” etc..but we all know it is not!…neighborhood watch worked years ago..it could work again…even if it is random…but people need to speak up and join together to reclaim our neighborhood before it is too late! stop fingerpointing, be part of the solution!

  • Fran

    Hi, I have been researching different neighborhoods in Brooklyn to shop for a house in a quiet area where I can commute to work. I am responding to one of the comments that stated that the actions by these bad teens are not hurting your house value and that only the economy is hurting your home prices. Believe me, these actions are definitely hurting your house because I certainly will not buy a house in Gerritsen Beach.

  • anon

    Good, stay out.

  • trainman

    Fran,
    I’m not sure if you’re really telling the truth about looking for a new place to live or you are just trying to revitalize this site by rehashing old stories.
    Anyway, if you’re telling the truth I can’t imagine any insightful person dismissing a whole neighborhood because of a few unruly children unless of course you have a whole list of neighborhoods to choose that have no crime whatsoever. If that’s the case then GB is not for you.

  • ARON

    IT MAY NOT BE A RACIAL ISSUE. RUMOR HAS IT THAT THE NEIGHBORHOOD GIRL THAT WORKS THERE IS STARTING ALL KINDS OF PROBLEMS .

  • GB JOE

    HEARD THAT IF SHE DOESNT LIKE YOU,SHE PUTS BLEACH IN YOUR CLOTHES OR SHE SHOVES CLOTHES IN THE DRYER SO THAT YOU DON’T HAVE ONE AND THEN SHE EMPTIES THEM FOR HER FRIENDS OF COURSE SHE ONLY DOES IT WHEN THE OWNER IS NOT THERE SO IT IS NOT THE OWNERS FAULT AND SHOULD NOT BE TAKEN OUT ON THE OWNER.

  • Anonymous

    this shit kills me!.. I hate Gerritsen Beach..its made up of generations of trash..smh! everyone is a drunk. however your problems are very small compared to alot of other neighborhoods in brooklyn, i understand its still your neighborhood but it could be ALOT worse, but only when it comes to crime, cause the rest is pretty much at its worse. Gerritsen beach has nothing to offer the upcoming generations, but bleachers and bars…nevermind the people lowering your property value, what about the houses in general, you all live in cabanas with no sidewalks lmaoo.. you have to leave gerritsen to actually see brooklyn, but hardly anyone does, its like the only life they know…if your breed in gerritsen you stay in gerritsen..(which i personally prefer)..its like a colt, they dont like outsiders,you have to be born there, they are ALLL related(yuck), and best of all there is only one way out of the damn place and thats on the ave..

  • Another Anonymous

    What they care about in Gerritsen Beach is their HUGE homes with HUGE rooms – all their ridiculously sized mini-mansions built on swampland! A place that was supposed to be only bungalows – a quaint place to live. HAH – Huge gas bills; huge electric bills! No wonder no one touches them down there – they’re paying for a huge chunk of the corporate world!! The Gerritsen Beach 1950’s charm is gone. All you have are psycho drunk/drug-addicts – yes living in their sidewalk cabana/mansions – going from one glutinous spree to the next – whatever – and having no hope in their creeping children. When Jim’s Marine Inn was around and the trash was in there every night, the only way you could complain was to catch them on film and write all the congressmen. It took a while, but one more fat rat is gone!!! This whole place is starting to sink anyway. Check out the flooding that’s happening lately. KEEP BUILDING THOSE MINI-MANSIONS!! Gerritsen Beach looks like the Lowe’s parking lot demo-home section…. no trees, no signs of nature or any kind of life – just burning asphalt and wretched criminal-minded people and “children”…. I’m so looking forward to winter – time and the parking space wars – you know – where the old people have to park 4 and 5 blocks away because they’re terrified of their neighbors young children and retribution if they dare park in a CITY-OWNED parking space anywhere near the vicinity of the fattest alpha male/female outrageously nuts drunken specimen on the block…. Retiring soon… Enjoy….

  • Dave

    I think if you break your foot off in some of these kids asses you might get a handle on this crap

    • Kelly D

      Dave,I think you might be on to something.But Another Anonymous has described what has happened in the Beach to a T.

  • Jerry D

    I would go with Another Anonymous,This seems to hit the nail on the head.