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Radio Controled Society: “Where Are Your Children”?

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There is an dangerous battle being fought Back Weeds at the airplane field. It’s being fought between the Radio Controlled Society of Marine Park (RCSMP) and local “rock throwing” kids.

According to the RCSMP president. A group of “hoodlums” have been constatnly harrasing his members and it’s come to a point of major seriousness. They have had large groups of kids harras them, one even stole and stripped a plane, and the kids have started to throw rocks at their cars while they exit the skate park. Worse they say they have not been able to get any type of reasonable response from the police.

Not too long ago the RCSMP was at war with the ATV’s and Street Bikes that tear up their airfield. The NYTimes even covered it! Although they still have problems with the riders, one rider came to the rescue attempting to recover a stolen plane.

today(sunday) seems the same group of kids as sat stole my Orange plane and ran off the woods while sergey and joe was in the woods retriving the plane that was in tree, when they saw i was alone packing up car, they surounded me and talking among themself behind the car, another kid grapped my plane and ran into the woods, i called police, the group saw me doing so and dissappered

the guys that ride ATV( the outsider group of atv riders) saw that kid grabing my plane and help me gave chase on thier bikes and atv but lost him(they was on far side while i was on other side) after a few min i yell for joe and sergey for help , they ran back to car and i took chase, after 15 min, we found plane ditched on side of playground near skate park with broken tail and strip servos

police WILL not take report!!!! saying i got my property back~~ WHAT A FULL OF SHIT!!!! i told them i want the kid arrested, i gave them discription of kid and they didnt care!!! saying i got my stuf back and i didnt get hurt!!! so……….. someone need to get hurt before something happen? then very soon a member WILL get hurt by them and it maybe too late.

last week, was leaving field on front gate, some kids was throwing eggs and broke his winshield, REALLY? a egg? more like a stone or something harder!!!!

 On top of that the kids at the park were throwing “rocks” and member Joe C’s car breaking his windshield.

today me and my dad were exiting the field and this group of 10-15 kids came and started to throw stones at our car but we didnt do anything.  and as you all know after that they jumped on pete and stole his plane and took off. this needs to be taken under notice otherwise this will get worse day by day.

The group is planning on enacting the buddy system for their protection “No one flies alone or is left alone at the field” is their new motto.  We need more police presence at the park and start arresting some of these kids” said one member.  “[if the police don’t do anything]… someone is going to get pissed off and do something bad”

“Maybe the community knows who some of these kids are and they can get a visit from the police.”

77 comments to Radio Controled Society: “Where Are Your Children”?

  • Vince

    Beach rats strike again!
    Who are their parents going to blame now?
    The flyers? The planes? The cars they came in?
    No, they will blame Danny C., their now and future scapegoat for everything.
    Everyone except their kids (and themselves for being crappy parents).

  • Clay

    Wonder if the cop is one of the delinquents’ parents?

  • snoreasaurusrex

    You are probably right. There is corruption here in the beach. Also. I spoke to some of the rangers and got this ” we are worried about lawsuits, so we don’t do anything.”

    • Anonymous

      people are getting shot and stabbed in the 61st precint they arent worried about little kids throwing rocks maybe gb cares should invest in some private security if yous think that you are a sort of breezy point

      • Anonymous

        their asses would have been thrown out of Breezy Point a long time ago

      • Anonymous

        Really????!!!! Are you kidding…..boy there is much ignorance breeding in GB. So if I am driving down Gerritsen Avenue and someone throws a rock at my car and it breaks my windshield and I swerve and hit a parked car with my 2 year old daughter in the back and we are both hurt or worse. Hmmmmm do you still think it is so “innocent”?

  • snoreasaurusrex

    One other thing. Everyone keeps to their jurisdictions. Since it is in the parks, they will tell you it is the job of the Urban park rangers (all two of them). There is corruption there. How can nothing be done on Halloween or at any other time? Has someone got a poli in the pocket?????

  • Anonymous

    i was back there the other day walking my dog and i witnessed one of the plane flyers push one of the kids and then the kid started beating up the 45 year old man and then two other plane flyers hit the kid from behind nd his two friends jumped in and the kids beat up the plane flyers…………….these kids were around 14 and the flyers were about 35-50 years of age and the kids beat them up but in an act of self defense

  • Vince

    I call BS on this!

    • dave sanderfeild

      i witnessed one of these angry flyers fly one of there planes into one of the children when he was riding his bike on the runway these flyers are rediclous to assualt 14 year old these flyers really need to see some anger managment

      • riley sullivan

        i was there when this happened! the man who assaulted the young man should be in jail!

        • A supposed "beach rat"

          wow. just wow. a kid gets assaulted for being on a toy plane runway, AND YOU BLAME HIM! My friend gets hit with an airplane and u think “Oh those stupid kids need to be punnished”. For what being attacked by people flying airplanes? This was a crime on them. ok so what, halloween got out of hand. KIDS COULD GET EXPELLED IF THEY FIND OUT A STUDENT GOT ARRESTED! maybe not sheepshead bay(a sorry excuse for a school) but Kids who go to good high schools like Xaver, like regis, maybe even Xaverian. what happened to the saying “boys will be boys”? a fucking kid got attacked by someone about 35 years old. NOBODY WANTS TO DO ANYTHING ABOUT IT?

          • Captain Sully

            Here’s what REALLY happened:

            Guys are flying airplanes – taking off and landing them.
            Their attention – focused on flying the airplane.

            Your friend starts riding his bike where he shouldn’t be – ON AN ACTIVE RC AIRPLANE RUNWAY, which he probably saw and heard as the planes were flying around. Also, he knows the area and what it’s used for – he should know better.

            Kid is in the wrong place at the wrong time – IN THE MIDDLE OF AN ACTIVE RC AIRPLANE RUNWAY – as plane is coming in low/for a landing.

            Kid gets hit by the plane.

            THIS IS EXACTLY WHY YOU SHOULD NOT BE RIDING YOUR BIKE ON A RUNWAY BEING USED BY GUYS FLYING RC PLANES.

            Sorry, but your friend is kind of a dumb-ass.

      • Paul

        Your lack of punctuation and overall bad grammar leads me to believe you are one of the punk kids causing all this trouble. I hope you get the beating you deserve.

      • anon

        why was the little tike riding on the runway ? I guess he’s “innocent ” and didn’t realize the folks all around with planes in the air. Or maybe he was blind and dumb…. nah. I think the little bastard knew exactly what he was doing and was trying to antagonize the flyers by riding on the landing strip. To bad those are just model airplanes…. maybe these guys can add little machine guns or bombs to drop on these little pricks…lol…lmao

      • Anonymous

        Are you kidding? None of those guys would fly a plane at a child! They all have licenses to fly those things. Get this little kid off the page!

  • Clay

    Interesting with the added info. Only thing I would say then would be if I owned a RC plane, assuming it is not amazingly cheap, I would hardly use it willy nilly as a dart, i.e. what provoked the observed act(s)? My supposition would be that both groups clearly don’t like each other, but that the kids are more likely to be the ones that initially invaded the RC runway, damaging it with ATVs, bikes, etc., pissing off the flyers to the point that such things have escalated to this point. I don’t see the logic of the flyers attacking kids for fun with pricey darts, but I can imagine delinquents braking windows, trashing planes, etc., clearly based on the past performance with bus shelters, Halloween, etc. “Occam’s razor” anyone?

  • kerrin o'neill

    i just think the website is being brought down to a new low. Ratting on kids is not news. If the plane flyers safety is at risk they should call the police EVERY TIME they go fly planes.

    • kerrin o'neill

      ps ratting on kids is not news its gossip…if this is a gossip site, then lets call it that and get the real juice…

      • Anonymous

        If they call the police and they never come, then what do they do? You people have no idea how ignorant you sound. Raise your kids properly and stop the drugs and booze. You’re worse than all the minorities you say are the real problem!

    • Trainman Fan

      PS

      How is this not news?

      • trainman

        This is another one of the residual effects of having parents so involved in their own world they forget that they are responsible for the lives they brought into this world. Its bad parenting like this that makes small children evolve into this pattern of behavior that these unfortunate kids find themselves in.

        These street-smart kids learn too soon that because of their young age they are exempt from certain kinds of retaliation from adults. Once in a while when adults lose their patience and strike back in the same manner that THEY are attacked, the adults always lose and the kids know that.

        My advice to these adults that are being harassed and intimidated by these kids is to hurt them where it does the most good and that’s in their parents’ bank account. Retain these kids and call the police and file a police report no matter how trivial the crime is against you or your property. When the parents of these kids start losing time at work and pay for lawyers to represent their children in court, they’ll understand the importance of knowing where their children are at all times.
        It’s a shame that we have to go to such extremes to make the parents become more conscientious.

    • anon

      you and everyone in GB knows the cops aint gonna show up… so who the hell are you kidding??? After the rest of the city realizes the cops don’t show their faces in GB, the really bad elements are gonna come in and all hell is gonna break loose….

  • Arthur Borko

    Another example of the NYPD manipulating crime statistics by refusing to file a report.

  • Anonymous

    maybe the witch from the property owners meeting can make a fly by and check on the yuths

    • A supposed "beach rat"

      ARE YOU SERIOUS! DONT CALL HER A WITCH BECAUSE YOU DONT AGREE WITH SOMETHING SHE SAYS OR DOES!!

      • Captain Sully

        ARE YOU SERIOUS? BUT IT”S OKAY FOR HER TO CALL SOMEONE A PEDOPHILE BECAUSE SHE DOESN’T AGREE WITH WHAT SOMEONE SAYS OR DOES?

        • anon2

          you are all HYPOCRITES !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! your kids and I use that term loosely, ARE TRASH….. deal with it. …lmao

  • JD

    Gerritsen Beach = the new East New York, but with white people.

  • Anonymous

    “the guys that ride ATV( the outsider group of atv riders) saw that kid grabing my plane and help me gave chase on thier bikes and atv but lost him(they was on far side while i was on other side) a few min i yell for joe and sergey for help , they ran back to car and i took chase, after 15 min, we found plane ditched on side of playground near skate park…”

    why isn’t anybody complaining about his grammar?

    • Captain Sully

      Anon,

      You forgot to capitalize the first letter in the sentence of your reply. You could also better clarify your point with adjective to modify your noun. His “what” grammar? Lack of? Poor? Demonstrated well for a resident of Brooklyn?

    • Anonymous

      How does he know that they are an”outsider group of ATV riders?’

  • Big John

    You folks should understand that this is your kids’ fault and no one else. And you’re whiners, especially the parents and especially Kerrin O’neill apparently. I don’t live in Gerritsen Beach. Know how I ended up here? Because what’s going on in GB is so ridiculous that it’s in the news where I live. You should step up and do some parenting instead of demonizing anyone who complains about being terrorized by your awful kids. You make Brooklyn look like crap.

    • kerrin o'neill

      I was under the impression this site was about news in gerritsen beach, my neighborhood. I never gave my opinion about the kids down here. I can keep that to myself. I just think telling on kids is not news worthy. If thats where the site is going, then lets get the real gossip. Who is cheating, who came out of the bar with who, who was fighting, who is pregnant-lets get tabloid if that is where its going. It seems only the children are the target of moral conduct.

      • Big John

        I understand the reasoning you’ve used-kind of. But if it seems to you that only the children are the target of moral misconduct, consider that only the children are making the news lately with their bullshit. If people are talking about it and that’s what is going on, what do you want from an news site, even an indy-news site? They’re only going to report what’s going on. People don’t care about what’s not going on.

      • VacationPlease

        A new site named, “The Beach Enquirer”?

      • trainman

        kerrin o’neill, the examples you gave of “gossip” really doesn’t affect the residents here in the Beach. It should not be important to us what our neighbors or other residents do if it does not affect our day-to-day life.
        Unfortunately the children’s behavior lately has had a profound affect on many people here. Halloween for an example and now the model airplane fields. I, for one, feel reassured that we have someone like Daniel Cavanaugh who takes an interest in our neighborhood and exposes the problems we have, not only with the kids, but with the parents who supervised them. But there’s so much more to this site. It tells of community events like flu shots for the elderly, fund drives and the financial situation our Volunteer Fire Department is in today. It reports on the Property Owners meeting so people who cannot attend can get a pulse on what’s happening here.
        Not everyone agrees what goes on in this site and that’s fine. But only shortsighted people would think that we are better off without GB.net then we are with it.

        • kerrin o'neill

          perhaps the examples of gossip i provided dont affect you or i individually. However the moral conduct of the residents of Gerritsen Beach does affect us ALL on a different level. Stop reporting on the kids conduct and start focusing on the adults. Thats where the real shame should lie anyway. Why shame teenagers? They are teenagers-the ones who get in trouble at home are the ones who wouldve regardless of the news report, the ones who dont, wont anyway. This neighborhood is close enough that if i saw my friends child doing somthing dangerous a personal phone call (or knock on the door)could do the job, or vice versa if my child was acting disrespectfully. It didnt need to be posted online like real news. That is my opinion. If the site continues reporting on children i am just going to stop checking it out. That is my 2 cents. Happy weekend

          • trainman

            kerrin o’neill:
            In a perfect world I would have to agree with you but given the circumstances here, your protests would probably fall on deaf ears.

            I’ve been a resident of GB since 1974 and bad behavior on Halloween has been a yearly event for as long as I can remember.
            Sadly, this behavior has gone from mischievous to violent.

            From the parents’ response regarding their children’s behavior in this years Halloween’s mayhem, I feel pretty confident that they were the ones that were egging many years ago.

            What would you say to a parent who obviously sets the bar so low for his/her children that egging and “Watching out for the cops” is encouraged and who says “The kids are just having fun?”

            A week before Halloween, GB.net re-submitted the events from last year’s Halloween and showed the damage that was caused and also the police response because of GB’s children’s bad behavior.
            (This was an example of GB.net’s attempt at preventing another problematic Halloween this year) ……..Apparently those efforts were a waste of time.

            We’re not talking about a neighbor’s child having an altercation with your child here. By some reports upwards of 50 children were involved in this year’s “fun” on Halloween.

            It’s a shame these children had to be outed the way they were. However, considering the escalation of violence and the potential for tragedy, along with a lack of parental guidance, community intervention seemed to be our only recourse.

          • kerrin o'neill

            we willl have to agree to disagree then about “newsworthy” material.

          • trainman

            Kerrin o’neill,
            Thanks for your replies and we’ll just have to agree to disagree.
            Good luck

      • anon

        you’re a loser…..are you a parent of one of these kids or are a little prick?

      • Anonymous

        You been doing a great job keeping it to yourself apparently. Your children are criminals!

  • anonymous

    most of the posts with low ratings have irish surnames….really shanty….lol

  • The Good Suffer

    The good people outnumber the bad people. The parents of these kids are selfish. They only care about themselves. These kids are dragging a good neighborhoods reputation threw the mud.The good hard working people of the neighborhood should be upset to livein the same neighborhood as these people.Lets blame Danny or Lets blame the cops. How about lets blame the parents. These are your kids. Stop whinning and start being PARENTS.

  • Anonymous

    look at those beautiful dirtbike trails and fuck you dan kavinor u perv

  • anonymous1

    I am sitting in my home listening to the loud noise of racing dirt bikes in the weeds and getting my weekly headache from the noise, there are many of them from the sound, this happens every sunday goes on for hours and I am sick of it. They bring the bikes in sometimes on trailers. and after riding in the weeds they take them up and down Gerritsen Ave…. Where is the parks dept and parks police this has been going on for years and HAS TO STOP. Does anyone know who would take these complaints I am fed up

    • Anonymous

      OMG! I was on the Ave today and it was just awful! Where the hell is the Parks Dept. and the police???? There had to be 50 dirt bikes back weeds and many going up and down the Ave, especially at the end, racing up and down, no helmets, popping wheelies. These are mostly NOT the beach kids. This has become a destination for riders from all over the city. There were flatbeds, pickups and trailers parked all over the Ave. It doesn’t matter if they are from here or where they are from we need the cops down here getting serious with this problem, it is way out of hand. My sympathies to anyone who lives on the Ave. or close to it. Also to the people at the airfield, the dirt bikes were torturing the shit out of them. Where are the cops?!?

      • anon

        good luck with the cops…..you folks have a voluteer fire dept, maybe you should have your own police or security force…just a thought. The city seems to have abandoned your area for some reason.

      • anonymous

        The quads are all lined up on the avenue, the come in on trucks and trailers, just wondering if it is legal to ride them in the weeds. The police were here , spoke to them and left .. I am curious if anyone knows what is going on with this. It is getting out of control with the noise these vehicles make every weekend.

  • Anonymous

    Keep writing about incidents when they happen. The precinct doesn’t want to take a report because if the crime figures go up, the precinct commander gets a dress down. It’s all a numbers game but if you get the stories into the press, the police will eventually have to acknowledge it and do something about it.

    The police department is only concerned with statistics these days. They forgot what crime prevention and crime response is all about.

    • anon

      “Keep writing about incidents when they happen. The precinct doesn’t want to take a report because if the crime figures go up, the precinct commander gets a dress down” …………Anonymous you do not know what you are talking about (although you keep repeating yourself)..
      The 61 precinct is doing an excellent job, no other neighborhoods in the 61 precinct area are complaining. And by the way, the 61 precinct Commanding Officer just recently got promoted to the next rank, so much for the dress down, duh.

  • FromAnotherSmallCommunity

    To all the parent who are saying ” it nots my kid”, believe it – it is your kids! They get in a group – they act like the young naive kids they are. They want to show off in front of their friends and things get pushed too far.

    Sure – one on one, they are all probably good kids at heart. But just like we all did as kids and sometimes as adults, we all act like a fool till we learn better.

    Wake Up GB folks – the spotlight is on you now and the whole country can see and hear your actions. Theres nothing better, worst or different with the kids in your neighborhood than anywhere else in the county. Your neighborhood has eyes- use them to reign in trouble before it gets worse – the messenger isnt the problem.

  • old beach rat

    To Another….. thank you, you’ve got it right. well told.

  • Mudkip

    I say some vigilante justice is in order. Some kid throws rocks at my car? I’ll run that little fuck over! That’ll teach him a lesson!

  • flyguy

    the photos have been sent to this website for publication, lets see if they get printed or not.

    • Anonymous

      I hope if he does he also posts pics of the “flyguys” flying up the little road in their cars to the AP field. Is it really smart to go that fast past a park with small children on Razor scooters and tricycles? And I also hope he posts pics of the “flyguys” screwing around with their planes, swooping them down over peoples heads who are walking back there. I don’t know what happened with the kids that day, but my husband and I have been back there walking our dog and have had the planes guided to just over our heads. One day, last year, the guy kept doing it and my husband picked up a rock and said, “one more time and that plane is coming down!”. We don’t walk on the field while they are flying and we certainly aren’t throwing rocks at them or bothering them in any way, but we have, at times, felt threatened by them. Consideration works both ways, pal. The kids aren’t always wrong just because they are kids and people should remember that adults aren’t always right just because they say they are.

      • Anonymous

        All this nonsense about these guys flying planes at kids needs to stop. It’s a bold-faced lie.

        • Anonymous

          It’s not a lie. We are a 50 year old couple and it happened to us while walking on the trail that runs along the back of the airfield. I have no reason to make this up, my children are grown and I don’t personally know anyone involved. Just relating what happened to us and hoping that people will take what you guys say with a grain of salt. Like I said, just because they are kids doesn’t make them wrong or liars. I have seen you guys speeding up that road adjacent to the skate park with my own eyes. I have seen you leave the gate open because you are too lazy to get out and relock it, allowing the ATV’s and dirtbikes easy access. You are guests here, have some consideration for the people who live here and the kids who play here.

    • GerritsenBeach.net

      Flyguy, I don’t like being threatened or dared into printing anything.

      Yes, you did send pictures but from the pictures I cannot tell what they were doing. I don’t feel like posting pictures of people who can come back and say they “were just walking back weeds”. I do not doubt you that they were giving you trouble it’s just that these pictures are not showing anything in the act.

      • flyguy

        daniel,
        i’m not looking to pick a fight with you. i’m just saying that those photos were taken during one of the many times these kids have harassed our members.

        • Clay

          Flyguy, use the video setting next time, that’s the only evidence that would be viable. The same holds true for those harassed by planes. FlipCam, cellphones, etc. can all do it nowadays, so use it.

  • flyguy

    IF and i stress IF>>> one of the members of the Radio Control Society was stupid enough to use his airplane to frighten or intimidate you and your husband, you are more than welcome to come to the field ANY weekend and point that member out to our club safety officer. if what your saying is true, then his rights and privileges WILL BE REVOKED AND HE WILL BE BANNED FROM THE FIELD!!! We take our safety very seriously, and do not condone such dangerous behavior from our members. Flying in Seba Park is a privilege, and we do not take it lightly. now on the other hand, if perhaps you were walking across the runway while this person was trying to land his aircraft, he then sees you and your husband on or near the runway,concludes it is not safe to land until the field is clear, and aborts the landing, powers up to fly around again, and attempts another landing, that MAY SEEM to a person not familiar with landing procedures like he was “guiding his plane at you” If you are on or near the runway, YOU are in the wrong place not the plane. i hope in the future, we may find common ground and BOTH be able to enjoy the park safely. As far as our members driving into the field in a reckless manner or above the 10 mph speed limit, I have not noticed any member doing that, but i will bring it up at our next club meeting, which by the way any of you are more than welcome to attend and voice your concerns to the officers of the club (your neighbors perhaps) and have them addressed.

    • Anonymous

      I appreciate the fact that you will address the speeding at your next meeting. Aside from the older kids that you say are torturing you, there are alot of small children playing there. The incident with us happened last spring, we were just walking on the trail behind the airfield that runs parralell to the Ave. We NEVER walk across the airfield when people are using it. And make no mistake, he was buzzing our heads on purpose, did it 4-5 times. There were 3 youngish guys and they were laughing as they did it. I’m sure it is illegal to throw rocks, but if you feel threatened it’s a matter of self defense, and besides it’s the plane that would have been hit, not the flyers. I enjoy watching the planes and helicopters and we have retrieved crashed planes and returned them. Most of your guys seem decent enough and I also hope that common ground can be found. It all boils down to consideration for others.

  • flyguy

    Oh and by the way, let your husband know that throwing rocks is a felony.

  • flyguy

    Please also understand that the r/c model field is used by MANY people who are not members of R.C.S.M.P. All they have to do is walk on to the field and set up their airplane/helicopter and then fly. We club members have no legal right to make them leave or make them abide by our safety rules.(we can’t even keep the bikers off the field for heavens sake!!) it is after all a PUBLIC PARK and we cannot be at the field 24/7. I’m sorry you had this encounter with this malcontent, but we, as members of the R.C.S.M.P. do all that is possible to be good neighbors and stewards of the park. We are constantly cleaning,mowing, planting, repairing and painting to keep the park beautiful (at our own expense mind you). and we will continue our efforts to do so. I urge you to stop by and say hello someday, Maybe we can arrange for you or your spouse to take a flying lesson or two on our club trainer airplane?? who knows? you may enjoy the hobby!!!!