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	<title>Comments on: New Intersection Destroys Communities. DEADLOCK Throughout Marine Park, and Gerritsen Beach</title>
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		<title>By: MST</title>
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		<dc:creator>MST</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Mar 2010 15:37:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Was the sign removed illegally?  If so, the &quot;no left turn&quot; rule would still apply.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Was the sign removed illegally?  If so, the &#8220;no left turn&#8221; rule would still apply.</p>
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		<title>By: Jack</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jack</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Mar 2010 15:21:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have lived on Stuart St, right off Ave U since 1965. I just got a ticket this morning from NYPD for making a left onto Ave U. I rarely ever make a left there However, the sign was down this morning and not there.
Please help as I pleaded not guilty and took the picture minus the sign</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have lived on Stuart St, right off Ave U since 1965. I just got a ticket this morning from NYPD for making a left onto Ave U. I rarely ever make a left there However, the sign was down this morning and not there.<br />
Please help as I pleaded not guilty and took the picture minus the sign</p>
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		<title>By: Local Leaders Criticize DOT Proposal For C.I. Ave &#124; Sheepshead Bay News Blog</title>
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		<dc:creator>Local Leaders Criticize DOT Proposal For C.I. Ave &#124; Sheepshead Bay News Blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Dec 2009 18:57:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] implemented &#8220;traffic calming,&#8221; shrinking a four-lane avenue down to two lanes despite widespread community opposition. (Within days of the changes on Gerristen Avenue an accident occurred involving a school bus that [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] implemented &#8220;traffic calming,&#8221; shrinking a four-lane avenue down to two lanes despite widespread community opposition. (Within days of the changes on Gerristen Avenue an accident occurred involving a school bus that [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Dec 2009 19:23:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>that&#039;s bloomy spending the money on something we didn&#039;t need. oh what a Mayor!!!!!!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>that&#8217;s bloomy spending the money on something we didn&#8217;t need. oh what a Mayor!!!!!!!!</p>
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		<title>By: Beachwalker</title>
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		<dc:creator>Beachwalker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Dec 2009 16:44:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-24270&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;@Wow&lt;/a&gt;, Talk about the waste of money the city doesn&#039;t even have! According to the Daily News the other day, King Bloomy is BORROWING all the money for these projects. What a mess!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-24270" rel="nofollow">@Wow</a>, Talk about the waste of money the city doesn&#8217;t even have! According to the Daily News the other day, King Bloomy is BORROWING all the money for these projects. What a mess!!</p>
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		<title>By: Wow</title>
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		<dc:creator>Wow</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Dec 2009 14:15:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just an observation, and I wish I had a camera yesterday....

Heading back to GB on Gerritsen, I was at the light right before Knapp Street.  Keep in mind, the turns onto Gerritsen from Knapp (by the bank) are supposed to be two specific lanes; one left and one right.  What I saw were cars/buses/trucks in both of these so-called turning lanes - heading right onto Gerritsen towards Keyfood.  Gridlock central.  One school bus had no choice but to sit in the middle of the street while cars cut him off as the light proceeded to turn green.  There wasn&#039;t one single car making a right turn onto Gerritsen Avenue.  All cars were merging and trying to squeeze into that single lane of traffic heading towards Avenue U.    

What a total disaster this project continues to be not to mention a total waste of tax-payers money.  Whoever said that the money sunk into this project could have been better used elsewhere is right on the money.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just an observation, and I wish I had a camera yesterday&#8230;.</p>
<p>Heading back to GB on Gerritsen, I was at the light right before Knapp Street.  Keep in mind, the turns onto Gerritsen from Knapp (by the bank) are supposed to be two specific lanes; one left and one right.  What I saw were cars/buses/trucks in both of these so-called turning lanes &#8211; heading right onto Gerritsen towards Keyfood.  Gridlock central.  One school bus had no choice but to sit in the middle of the street while cars cut him off as the light proceeded to turn green.  There wasn&#8217;t one single car making a right turn onto Gerritsen Avenue.  All cars were merging and trying to squeeze into that single lane of traffic heading towards Avenue U.    </p>
<p>What a total disaster this project continues to be not to mention a total waste of tax-payers money.  Whoever said that the money sunk into this project could have been better used elsewhere is right on the money.</p>
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		<title>By: neighbor</title>
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		<dc:creator>neighbor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Dec 2009 13:41:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have seen the BM4 cutting down Allen Avenue to start it&#039;s run at the end of Gerritsen Avenue.  I&#039;m assuming it used the short cut to avoid the Knapp &amp; Gerritsen intersection.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have seen the BM4 cutting down Allen Avenue to start it&#8217;s run at the end of Gerritsen Avenue.  I&#8217;m assuming it used the short cut to avoid the Knapp &amp; Gerritsen intersection.</p>
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		<title>By: Bob</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Dec 2009 05:07:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>They planted the trees in the island on Gerritsen &amp; Avenue U today...during the morning commute!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>They planted the trees in the island on Gerritsen &amp; Avenue U today&#8230;during the morning commute!</p>
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		<title>By: BrooklynBus</title>
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		<dc:creator>BrooklynBus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Dec 2009 00:09:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Excellent coverage.  All good points.  I have not yet been to Gerritsen Avenue since the change, but from what I read, this sounds like a nightmare.  I wonder where these so-called DOT traffic engineers got their degrees from.  This isn&#039;t the first bad decision they&#039;ve made, but it seems like one of the worst.

CB 15 did oppose these changes, but all DOT did was remove the bicycle lanes.  They have proposed similar nightmarish changes for the intersection of Coney Island Avenue and Guider Avenue, but have not implemented them as yet, thank God.  As I once wrote to the Bay News, DOT now believes their mission is to screw-up traffic, which they call traffic calming, not to improve traffic flow.  How is the traffic &quot;calmed&quot; when the motorists are now &quot;irate&quot; not &quot;calm?&quot;

The question is how do you get these idiots to listen?  I wish I had the answer.  So far I&#039;ve only had limited success.  I got them to remove a 20 mph turn sign that was hung too low and dangerous.  They replaced it with a proper sign that fell down within 30 days after being hit by 60 mph winds.  It was never replaced even after notifying them. They also removed two &quot;Yield to Pedestrian&quot; signs which they blocked by placing &quot;school crossing&quot; signs directly in front of them one month later, when I asked them just to relocate the signs.  I also notified them of a one-way sign at Ave Y and E 11 Street that was placed about an inch from the street sign blocking it entirely so it can&#039;t be read.  That was about 9 months ago.  It was never fixed. DOT makes the MTA look like a competent agency by comparison.  

I hope it doesn&#039;t take a fatality for them to see their error on Gerritsen Avenue.  If one does occur, then Palmieri will get the boot, not the commissioner.  Remember, even after the SI Ferry disaster, Weinshall&#039;s job was still safe.  She should have been axed. The same thing will happen this time.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Excellent coverage.  All good points.  I have not yet been to Gerritsen Avenue since the change, but from what I read, this sounds like a nightmare.  I wonder where these so-called DOT traffic engineers got their degrees from.  This isn&#8217;t the first bad decision they&#8217;ve made, but it seems like one of the worst.</p>
<p>CB 15 did oppose these changes, but all DOT did was remove the bicycle lanes.  They have proposed similar nightmarish changes for the intersection of Coney Island Avenue and Guider Avenue, but have not implemented them as yet, thank God.  As I once wrote to the Bay News, DOT now believes their mission is to screw-up traffic, which they call traffic calming, not to improve traffic flow.  How is the traffic &#8220;calmed&#8221; when the motorists are now &#8220;irate&#8221; not &#8220;calm?&#8221;</p>
<p>The question is how do you get these idiots to listen?  I wish I had the answer.  So far I&#8217;ve only had limited success.  I got them to remove a 20 mph turn sign that was hung too low and dangerous.  They replaced it with a proper sign that fell down within 30 days after being hit by 60 mph winds.  It was never replaced even after notifying them. They also removed two &#8220;Yield to Pedestrian&#8221; signs which they blocked by placing &#8220;school crossing&#8221; signs directly in front of them one month later, when I asked them just to relocate the signs.  I also notified them of a one-way sign at Ave Y and E 11 Street that was placed about an inch from the street sign blocking it entirely so it can&#8217;t be read.  That was about 9 months ago.  It was never fixed. DOT makes the MTA look like a competent agency by comparison.  </p>
<p>I hope it doesn&#8217;t take a fatality for them to see their error on Gerritsen Avenue.  If one does occur, then Palmieri will get the boot, not the commissioner.  Remember, even after the SI Ferry disaster, Weinshall&#8217;s job was still safe.  She should have been axed. The same thing will happen this time.</p>
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		<title>By: Kate</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kate</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Nov 2009 16:21:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-24176&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;@murray&lt;/a&gt;, &quot;Last winter I witnessed a pedestrian crossing Gerritsen at Fillmore Ave. get hit by a turning motorist.&quot;  And that&#039;s when there were 2 lanes of traffic and room to maneuver around things...imagine how frustrated drivers stuck behind a mile of traffic are going to take turns now...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-24176" rel="nofollow">@murray</a>, &#8220;Last winter I witnessed a pedestrian crossing Gerritsen at Fillmore Ave. get hit by a turning motorist.&#8221;  And that&#8217;s when there were 2 lanes of traffic and room to maneuver around things&#8230;imagine how frustrated drivers stuck behind a mile of traffic are going to take turns now&#8230;</p>
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