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	<title>Comments on: Gerritsen Beach, Marine Park, Sheepshead to B31, B2 and B4: &#8220;Drop Dead&#8221;</title>
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		<title>By: bagels</title>
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		<dc:creator>bagels</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Feb 2009 15:29:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thats a nice new bus they have there......</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thats a nice new bus they have there&#8230;&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Gerritsen Girl</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gerritsen Girl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Feb 2009 12:58:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Congestion pricing is not the answer, just more revenue for the MTA, it won&#039;t help anything, they will just take that revenue and still cut services and raise fares.  The MTA has a monopoly on this city, the strike taught us that and they don&#039;t give a happy rat&#039;s ass what we say or do.

If you really believe that going to these stupid hearings change anything just keep waiting for the Tooth Fairy, Santa oh yeah you&#039;ll also be seeing the Easter Bunny.  They are rife with corruption, I don&#039;t hear anyone not taking a raise or pay cut to help stem the flow.

Wasn&#039;t there a case of cooked books a while back, you don&#039;t hear about that much do you?  It&#039;s a joke and congestion pricing it just a joke, remember the Verrazano bridge was just supposed to be tolled until it was paid off?  Well now you pay $10.00 to cross over it, don&#039;t think that will happen with the East river bridges?  Grow up.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Congestion pricing is not the answer, just more revenue for the MTA, it won&#8217;t help anything, they will just take that revenue and still cut services and raise fares.  The MTA has a monopoly on this city, the strike taught us that and they don&#8217;t give a happy rat&#8217;s ass what we say or do.</p>
<p>If you really believe that going to these stupid hearings change anything just keep waiting for the Tooth Fairy, Santa oh yeah you&#8217;ll also be seeing the Easter Bunny.  They are rife with corruption, I don&#8217;t hear anyone not taking a raise or pay cut to help stem the flow.</p>
<p>Wasn&#8217;t there a case of cooked books a while back, you don&#8217;t hear about that much do you?  It&#8217;s a joke and congestion pricing it just a joke, remember the Verrazano bridge was just supposed to be tolled until it was paid off?  Well now you pay $10.00 to cross over it, don&#8217;t think that will happen with the East river bridges?  Grow up.</p>
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		<title>By: robert paulson</title>
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		<dc:creator>robert paulson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Feb 2009 14:36:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There are other solutions to this problem then just taxing more or cutting service. Unfortunately the media, including this website, choose to ignore them. Use google people...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There are other solutions to this problem then just taxing more or cutting service. Unfortunately the media, including this website, choose to ignore them. Use google people&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: mike</title>
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		<dc:creator>mike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Feb 2009 04:07:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, then start packing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, then start packing.</p>
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		<title>By: Lew from Brooklyn</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lew from Brooklyn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Feb 2009 01:53:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mike, the only inevitables are death and taxes. Tolls are not inevitable. Once a toll is instituted its perpetual existence is inevitable.

Not on my watch.

Lew from Brooklyn</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mike, the only inevitables are death and taxes. Tolls are not inevitable. Once a toll is instituted its perpetual existence is inevitable.</p>
<p>Not on my watch.</p>
<p>Lew from Brooklyn</p>
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		<title>By: mike</title>
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		<dc:creator>mike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Feb 2009 12:26:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lew, understand that East River bridge tolls are inevitable in some fashion, whether you like them or not.

I predict that in a few years you will wonder why you ever thought of opposing them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lew, understand that East River bridge tolls are inevitable in some fashion, whether you like them or not.</p>
<p>I predict that in a few years you will wonder why you ever thought of opposing them.</p>
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		<title>By: Lew from Brooklyn</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lew from Brooklyn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Feb 2009 03:43:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Such bunk that Gene Russianoff, Transportation Alternatives, the MTA Board are now all endorsing my Payroll Tax plan openly and aggressively. That was their testimony on video tape at the city council. MY PLAN, the one that you think is &quot;bunk&quot; is going to save the fare, prevent service cuts and psy for the essential capital projects that will allow mass transit to adequately service riders. I repeat: if they had done that when congestion pricing was being debated and when I first proposed it, we would not now be talking about service cuts or fare increases. So, I guess &quot;bunk&quot; is in the eye of the beholder.

PS Even at the time of the congestion pricing debate, MTA exdcutive staffers told me off the record that they did not understand why they didn&#039;t adopt my plan which they preferred to congestion pricing. One reason why? In my plan, 99 cents out of every dollar collected from taxpayers went to support the plan. Under congestion pricing, it was 50 cents for collection costs out of every dollar taken from New Yorkers.

Lew from Brooklyn</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Such bunk that Gene Russianoff, Transportation Alternatives, the MTA Board are now all endorsing my Payroll Tax plan openly and aggressively. That was their testimony on video tape at the city council. MY PLAN, the one that you think is &#8220;bunk&#8221; is going to save the fare, prevent service cuts and psy for the essential capital projects that will allow mass transit to adequately service riders. I repeat: if they had done that when congestion pricing was being debated and when I first proposed it, we would not now be talking about service cuts or fare increases. So, I guess &#8220;bunk&#8221; is in the eye of the beholder.</p>
<p>PS Even at the time of the congestion pricing debate, MTA exdcutive staffers told me off the record that they did not understand why they didn&#8217;t adopt my plan which they preferred to congestion pricing. One reason why? In my plan, 99 cents out of every dollar collected from taxpayers went to support the plan. Under congestion pricing, it was 50 cents for collection costs out of every dollar taken from New Yorkers.</p>
<p>Lew from Brooklyn</p>
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		<title>By: mike</title>
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		<dc:creator>mike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Feb 2009 12:33:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good question.  We DO desperately need expansion, but yes, the MTA is paying an enormous amount of money each year on debt service.   Our funding mechanisms have not kept up with the times.  It&#039;s time to make ALL parties pay their fair share.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good question.  We DO desperately need expansion, but yes, the MTA is paying an enormous amount of money each year on debt service.   Our funding mechanisms have not kept up with the times.  It&#8217;s time to make ALL parties pay their fair share.</p>
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		<title>By: mike</title>
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		<dc:creator>mike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Feb 2009 12:30:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No Lew, you deserve blame, and you will continue to be called out until you stand up for ALL your constituents in a fair and equitable manner.  Your constituents deserve to know that you have no real plan to help the MTA, and that your opposition to congestion pricing/east river bridge tolls was simply pandering to the wealthier minority of folks in your district who support you.

Your &quot;alternative&quot; was bunk, and you know this.  You wanted to impose an inequitable tax on folks, instead of charging the tiny amount of Manhattan-bound car commuters in your district while the poor and middle class overwhelmingly benefited.

P.S. I appreciate your participation in forums such as these.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No Lew, you deserve blame, and you will continue to be called out until you stand up for ALL your constituents in a fair and equitable manner.  Your constituents deserve to know that you have no real plan to help the MTA, and that your opposition to congestion pricing/east river bridge tolls was simply pandering to the wealthier minority of folks in your district who support you.</p>
<p>Your &#8220;alternative&#8221; was bunk, and you know this.  You wanted to impose an inequitable tax on folks, instead of charging the tiny amount of Manhattan-bound car commuters in your district while the poor and middle class overwhelmingly benefited.</p>
<p>P.S. I appreciate your participation in forums such as these.</p>
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		<title>By: OnAnOnAnOnAnOn</title>
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		<dc:creator>OnAnOnAnOnAnOn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Feb 2009 14:13:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>MTA has all these plans for multi-billion dollar projects and capital construction.  Why don&#039;t they work on existing problems with regular service before trying to add more to their plates?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>MTA has all these plans for multi-billion dollar projects and capital construction.  Why don&#8217;t they work on existing problems with regular service before trying to add more to their plates?</p>
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