Comments on: Green Streets Dead http://www.gerritsenbeach.net/2008/02/14/green-streets-died-tonight/ Dedicated to Gerritsen Beach Offering Current News, Links & Reviews with some Memories Sat, 20 Mar 2010 11:57:28 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=abc hourly 1 By: Vladimir http://www.gerritsenbeach.net/2008/02/14/green-streets-died-tonight/#comment-2864 Vladimir Wed, 27 Feb 2008 15:45:08 +0000 http://www.gerritsenbeach.net/2008/02/14/green-streets-died-tonight/#comment-2864 Great! Great!

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]]> By: Illya Stichlasklya http://www.gerritsenbeach.net/2008/02/14/green-streets-died-tonight/#comment-2858 Illya Stichlasklya Tue, 26 Feb 2008 22:51:49 +0000 http://www.gerritsenbeach.net/2008/02/14/green-streets-died-tonight/#comment-2858 I will be there for the next one. I will be there for the next one.

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]]> By: Anon-Anon http://www.gerritsenbeach.net/2008/02/14/green-streets-died-tonight/#comment-2852 Anon-Anon Tue, 26 Feb 2008 13:53:11 +0000 http://www.gerritsenbeach.net/2008/02/14/green-streets-died-tonight/#comment-2852 This is precisely why it is important to attend Property Owners meetings, people. Very important. This is where it all begins. This is where you find out information before 'last minute'. This is where we all can come together to as a community and talk about things, good, bad or indifferent. You might not always agree, you might not like what you hear, or you may; but it is a way of being in the know and having a voice. This is why we have it. This is precisely why it is important to attend Property Owners meetings, people. Very important.

This is where it all begins. This is where you find out information before ‘last minute’. This is where we all can come together to as a community and talk about things, good, bad or indifferent. You might not always agree, you might not like what you hear, or you may; but it is a way of being in the know and having a voice. This is why we have it.

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]]> By: Jim D http://www.gerritsenbeach.net/2008/02/14/green-streets-died-tonight/#comment-2830 Jim D Mon, 25 Feb 2008 17:29:56 +0000 http://www.gerritsenbeach.net/2008/02/14/green-streets-died-tonight/#comment-2830 You are right; we should have presented our own ideas at the meeting. I don’t think it was a matter of people being know-it-alls, I think it was because of the way it was presented at the last minute for most of us. The meeting notice came out one week prior to the meeting on the 13th with the headline (Town Hall Meeting to Finalize Green Streets). Change could happen if our community groups worked together and put a plan together then presented it to the entire community themselves (Town hall meeting) and not at the last minute with our local politicians, leave them out until we are ready, poor community planning. I do believe however, it is never too late for change, and I also believe that the community would welcome change if it is brought to them with more frequency and not to just a couple of community interest groups before it presented in the fashion it was. You are right; we should have presented our own ideas at the meeting. I don’t think it was a matter of people being know-it-alls, I think it was because of the way it was presented at the last minute for most of us. The meeting notice came out one week prior to the meeting on the 13th with the headline (Town Hall Meeting to Finalize Green Streets). Change could happen if our community groups worked together and put a plan together then presented it to the entire community themselves (Town hall meeting) and not at the last minute with our local politicians, leave them out until we are ready, poor community planning. I do believe however, it is never too late for change, and I also believe that the community would welcome change if it is brought to them with more frequency and not to just a couple of community interest groups before it presented in the fashion it was.

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]]> By: Anon http://www.gerritsenbeach.net/2008/02/14/green-streets-died-tonight/#comment-2788 Anon Fri, 22 Feb 2008 03:55:01 +0000 http://www.gerritsenbeach.net/2008/02/14/green-streets-died-tonight/#comment-2788 I agree, also there is a story in today's Bay News issue that says green streets isn't as dead as we think. I agree, also there is a story in today’s Bay News issue that says green streets isn’t as dead as we think.

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]]> By: monsterzro http://www.gerritsenbeach.net/2008/02/14/green-streets-died-tonight/#comment-2786 monsterzro Fri, 22 Feb 2008 02:51:30 +0000 http://www.gerritsenbeach.net/2008/02/14/green-streets-died-tonight/#comment-2786 a little late, but I just wanted to applaud this site for the coverage of the neighborhood! When the site first launched, one of the things I was hoping to see were the community meetings online, a little youtube magic and we got it! Thanks! a little late, but I just wanted to applaud this site for the coverage of the neighborhood! When the site first launched, one of the things I was hoping to see were the community meetings online, a little youtube magic and we got it! Thanks!

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]]> By: ANON http://www.gerritsenbeach.net/2008/02/14/green-streets-died-tonight/#comment-2777 ANON Thu, 21 Feb 2008 02:24:02 +0000 http://www.gerritsenbeach.net/2008/02/14/green-streets-died-tonight/#comment-2777 You could forget about getting anything done in GB, people don't like change and the DOT got the picture. The above plans are just pipedreams now, we together as a group should have been more open minded and presented some of our own ideas instead of screaming and acting like we know it all. You could forget about getting anything done in GB, people don’t like change and the DOT got the picture. The above plans are just pipedreams now, we together as a group should have been more open minded and presented some of our own ideas instead of screaming and acting like we know it all.

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]]> By: Jim D http://www.gerritsenbeach.net/2008/02/14/green-streets-died-tonight/#comment-2776 Jim D Wed, 20 Feb 2008 23:12:57 +0000 http://www.gerritsenbeach.net/2008/02/14/green-streets-died-tonight/#comment-2776 When I went to the meeting that night, I was still undecided about what would be put into place concerning green streets. Originally, I thought it would be a good idea because our avenue does look very commercial. Once I heard the DOT and their engineer, speaking it was apparent that they really did not know the real impacts that this type of construction would have on the community and they did not really understand their own drawings and details. I do think however that there are solutions to the double parked cars and yellow buses in front of the school. There is an area directly behind the school, which could be utilized if a road was built as a student drop off area, one way in and one way out, a circle type road. The entrance road could be built at the area where the GB cares storage containers now presently preside to the back of the cafeteria in the space that is directly adjacent to the softball fields; this could elevate all of the congestion in front of the school. This parkland (the weeds) is not utilized and bug infested. There would have to be a traffic light put in this area to allow cars and buses to exit safely and this traffic light would ultimately solve a long ongoing issue right off Channel Avenue at the south end of the school. As for the avenue itself, ultimately the best way to slow traffic other than green streets as proposed, is to put into place stop signs and cross walks at nearly every bus stop from the school to the end of the avenue. I know this would be an inconvenience to the many people who race up the avenue to go to and from work and/or drop their kids of because they are running late but this is what I can see as the only alterative. If you were to look down the avenue 60 years ago, you would have seen a quaint little fishing town rarely seen in Brooklyn with its old fashion streetlights, clean streets and a miles worth of greenery. Now in most parts it looks like a commercial delivery zone. Poor planning on the city’s part. This to could be reconciled, a real plan could be developed in a way to eliminate all of the deteriorating telephone poles along the avenue by placing the utilities underground (phones, cable) and installing electrical transformer boxes on the sidewalk which in turn could be surrounded by shrubbery. Trees could be planted, planter boxes could be setup, there are many things that could be done but it is up the community to decide this, not the parks department, DOT or our local politicians. If we as a community stood up and really put our heads together, we could as a united community gets things done, our way. This of course is not an easy task but it could be done as seen in many other neighborhoods. It takes unification and determination. Just my thoughts. Jim D When I went to the meeting that night, I was still undecided about what would be put into place concerning green streets. Originally, I thought it would be a good idea because our avenue does look very commercial. Once I heard the DOT and their engineer, speaking it was apparent that they really did not know the real impacts that this type of construction would have on the community and they did not really understand their own drawings and details.

I do think however that there are solutions to the double parked cars and yellow buses in front of the school. There is an area directly behind the school, which could be utilized if a road was built as a student drop off area, one way in and one way out, a circle type road. The entrance road could be built at the area where the GB cares storage containers now presently preside to the back of the cafeteria in the space that is directly adjacent to the softball fields; this could elevate all of the congestion in front of the school. This parkland (the weeds) is not utilized and bug infested. There would have to be a traffic light put in this area to allow cars and buses to exit safely and this traffic light would ultimately solve a long ongoing issue right off Channel Avenue at the south end of the school.

As for the avenue itself, ultimately the best way to slow traffic other than green streets as proposed, is to put into place stop signs and cross walks at nearly every bus stop from the school to the end of the avenue. I know this would be an inconvenience to the many people who race up the avenue to go to and from work and/or drop their kids of because they are running late but this is what I can see as the only alterative. If you were to look down the avenue 60 years ago, you would have seen a quaint little fishing town rarely seen in Brooklyn with its old fashion streetlights, clean streets and a miles worth of greenery. Now in most parts it looks like a commercial delivery zone. Poor planning on the city’s part. This to could be reconciled, a real plan could be developed in a way to eliminate all of the deteriorating telephone poles along the avenue by placing the utilities underground (phones, cable) and installing electrical transformer boxes on the sidewalk which in turn could be surrounded by shrubbery. Trees could be planted, planter boxes could be setup, there are many things that could be done but it is up the community to decide this, not the parks department, DOT or our local politicians. If we as a community stood up and really put our heads together, we could as a united community gets things done, our way. This of course is not an easy task but it could be done as seen in many other neighborhoods. It takes unification and determination.

Just my thoughts.

Jim D

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]]> By: C http://www.gerritsenbeach.net/2008/02/14/green-streets-died-tonight/#comment-2769 C Wed, 20 Feb 2008 05:29:12 +0000 http://www.gerritsenbeach.net/2008/02/14/green-streets-died-tonight/#comment-2769 The double parking outside PS 277 is ridiculous. I am a parent whose children go to the school. I park my car & walk to pick up my kids. I always find a legal spot within 1 or 2 blocks of the school. My children have almost been hit twice by parents who double park and make crazy U turns in front of the school. I don't know if green streets was the solution (I don't know enough about it), but I do know some tickets wouldn't hurt. The double parking outside PS 277 is ridiculous. I am a parent whose children go to the school. I park my car & walk to pick up my kids. I always find a legal spot within 1 or 2 blocks of the school. My children have almost been hit twice by parents who double park and make crazy U turns in front of the school.

I don’t know if green streets was the solution (I don’t know enough about it), but I do know some tickets wouldn’t hurt.

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]]> By: Anonymous http://www.gerritsenbeach.net/2008/02/14/green-streets-died-tonight/#comment-2766 Anonymous Tue, 19 Feb 2008 17:09:01 +0000 http://www.gerritsenbeach.net/2008/02/14/green-streets-died-tonight/#comment-2766 Have you considered walking your child to school? I have never heard of legally double parking but if you say so. You can't Legally park in the bus stops or double park by the park yet, most people do. By the way when I take Dictum Ct. out of the beach most mornings to avoid the traffic. Its coming home in the afternoon & trying to make the turn onto the Ave. from the park that is upsetting, there are so many cars triple parked you an not see oncoming traffic. But I guess I should just find a new way home rahter than parents not blocking gerristen ave twice a day. Have you considered walking your child to school? I have never heard of legally double parking but if you say so. You can’t Legally park in the bus stops or double park by the park yet, most people do.

By the way when I take Dictum Ct. out of the beach most mornings to avoid the traffic. Its coming home in the afternoon & trying to make the turn onto the Ave. from the park that is upsetting, there are so many cars triple parked you an not see oncoming traffic. But I guess I should just find a new way home rahter than parents not blocking gerristen ave twice a day.

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