Back “back weeds” alot of stuff can happen, alot of stuff does. The other day there was a large park ranger presence breaking up a backyard wrestling ring.
Summonses were handed out and the ring was taken down. The actual summons that someone received is floating around myspace here is the actual summons:
Click on the image to see the larger summons
Is this a problem? What do you think?
Here is a video to help you see what they actually do.
[video]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qxkwwCCV01o[/video]
[video]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mbiUX9RmGTI[/video]
UPDATE: the CNN Video
[video]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7jLUOCyc9pY[/video]
the ring wasn’t taken down, the kids came back at 2 am to light it on fire and torched a huge section of the weeds, so yeah, its a problem
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It’ll be a problem when someone breaks their neck and decides to sue the Park for not preventing it.
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You mean a bunch of backyard nerds thought they could wrestle?
Wow, that must have gone over real well with their 6 year old audience demographic.
Talk about doing something constructive with your time.
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hey, i have one request. im in this video, but i havent even been in new york in 2 years. i left to join the army in 2003. can you please remove this video and add a different one if you can. its bad for my rep here, thank you
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I have to speak up in defense of IBW. Maybe in the past we have been known as some kids killing one another with glass and fire but we have risen above that stereotype. in the past year not only have we lowered the violence in our organization but we’ve increased the amount of people who have interest in the sport of wrestling.
You put down our means of activity and yet you all play football, baseball, or other sports and in the same manner whether for fun or as a career can still get injured just as we can. we have trained ourselves to do this and continually train ourselves to become better. i have seen kids come off the streets and find a positive thing to do with their time other than just sit on a corner and waste their existence away. it doesnt matter whether the parks dept or the damn mayor himself tell us we cant wrestle, IBW has never and will never die or go away.
We have around 5 guys leaving IBW to go to wrestling school and go further in a pro career which shows how seriously we take this. no matter what you do to us we wont go away because we deserve as much respect as anyone else in the world of sports.
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I wanna know why u chose the videos from 3-4 years ago to show about us…why dont u pick something more recent…i bet its because it dosent show us getting hurt…they show us helpping each other get better with are skills… so next time u wanna but down…try asking us and getting the fact correct…
~~~SD3 IBW FOREVER
IBW WILL NEVER DIE
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in the defense of IBW, i would like to say that what people have been saying about us is just screwed up. this was, and still will be, our past times, and will be the reason we dont just waste our lifes away. no one has died in ibw history, and IBW wont die its self. i msorry if most people dont see this as a sport, or a career choice, but to us its just like some one going for the high school baseball team. in short, you shouldnt try to knock us down before you see wat we’re about, and ask us how we feel about this sport, this form of entertainment.
J.J.
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post a link to a video that your talking about
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I’m also one of the wrestlers in IBW. And this video is from well over 3 years ago.
Now I would be on the otherside of the argument if Backweeds was used better then it is, but everyone in Gerritsen Beach admits that backweeds is a waste of land, supposedly it’s someplace that’s supposed to be used as “Passive recreation”.
Well the city defines passive recreation as Recreational activities that do not involve organized sports.
So i’d urge every single parent in Gerritsen Beach to gather up your children, and teens. And tell them that they can no longer play football, baseball, go paint balling, ride dirt bikes, or anything else similar, because they could be given a summons for it by the rules of the parks department.
The other online definition of passive recreation is as follows:
non-consumptive uses such as wildlife observation, walking,
biking, and canoeing.
Now I urge someone, ANYONE to show me the following:
1) What paths we have that are specifically maintained as Wildlife paths.
2) What wildlife we have, besides us rowdy kids, that would have us come backweeds to look at.
3) Biking, Canoeing and Walking are defined as passive recreation, because they do not disrupt the wildlife in the area. But what does disrupt the wildlife is when all the young kids carry wood and build shacks backweeds, teenagers driving dirt bikes and 4x4s through the weeds, and bulldozing plant life as well as letting noxious fumes being sucked up into the soil.
Now us, who now that we are older have moved away from the backyard wrestling style that we did three, maybe even four years ago, are being persecuted for what is an organized sport, as organized as a pick-up football game, or a baseball game or paint ball skirmish, are persecuted for grabbing a small part (less then 50 x 50 feet) for our area, which was an open clearing anyway. Yet you guys disagree with us because we might as monsterzro put it “break our necks” with predetermined moves and practiced actions, as opposed to football or baseball where nothing is planned and anything can happen.
In fact, i’d actually urge you guys to give me an example of a wrestler who got injured in the past 2 years by there in-ring actions, because I can definitely find you dozens of football players who have been injured just from a hard hit, which was legal in the game.
What my point is, is that the Park’s department, and your community does nothing to improve the backweeds area (like simply renaming it so it doesn’t have such a negative connotation) yet you guys want to complain when we use the area to have some organized fun with our friends.
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Qiz Pwns^^^^^^
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And if you’re looking for videos you have to go no farther then:
youtube.com/ibfuckingw
And please, don’t pull the crap by scouring through the videos looking for weapon usage upon weapon usage, because of course you’ll find some, but tune into any wrestling federation and you’re bound to see usage.
but hey here’s some matches that were from 2 weeks ago:
http://youtube.com/watch?v=qxkwwCCV01o
http://youtube.com/watch?v=xZrQnKU-Nnw
http://youtube.com/watch?v=N02f2mMf1wc
http://youtube.com/watch?v=sLNZuEZhcpY
http://youtube.com/watch?v=ElGUZZanmJ4
http://youtube.com/watch?v=xzdS6RttaMk
http://youtube.com/watch?v=KmKxY7RsthQ
http://youtube.com/watch?v=l-6_U94zmRI
http://youtube.com/profile_videos?user=IBfuckingW&p=r
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You realize you live in one of the premiere birding areas in the greater metroplex of NYC right? So, it should all be torched for you to have a wrestling ring? Come off it. It’s public land. There are plenty of trainers in NY who will take kids on the cheap and show them how to bump. Stop acting like what you do in that ring is in any way productive. It’s illegal. You’re untrained. And the fact is there are plenty of trainers in the area who could actually show you how to ‘WRESTLE’ rather than conduct a backyard spotfest.
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I do realize that Gerritsen Beach is one of the premiere birding areas in the greater Metroplex. And we don’t torch the weeds, I would like to see your proof of us burning the ring and not the parks department. Because whenever we have built a ring, and the parks department has found it THEY have torched and destroyed the ring. Not us.
And please, can you refer me to a trainer who would teach us how to bump correctly, and give us the time of day, in Brooklyn, for free, because we have wrestlers in IBW who HAVE been trained, and choose to wrestle and help train. And sure it’s illegal, but it’s just as illegal (in this area) as RUNNING backweeds is. If you physically RUN backweeds you can be summonsed for non-passive recreational use.
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And on top of that, no wrestle school will let you in under 18. THAT’s the law also.
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most of our roster has had pro training, and done pro shows, and you just once again proved the point that you jump to conclucions. pro wrstling schools cost over 5 grand to join, once again proving you have no idea what your taling about, and to add to this, theres only 1 wrestling school in NYC. 1, not plenty, 1. and just to shut you up more, i guess i’ll add that MOST SCHOOLS WONT TAKE YOU UNLESS YOU HAVE EXPERENCE, WITH YOU GET FROM YARDING! and to shut you up saying its not productive, lets see, IBW Wrestlers qiz, sd3, pyro, monkey, chaz, daimondback and more, i wasent relly paying attention when they were talking, are tarting at VPW, VICTORY PRO WRESTLING, in januray, and howed they get there, by getting very good at what they do PRIOR to wrestling training.
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ok, agreed there are many trainers out there that will take in and train people to actualy wrestle the right way. i am a fan of ibw, i was there when all of this took place. all the people here are my friends, and they have trained very hard to do something they love. in fact i myself was about to start training because i love the sport of wrestling. i have asked the guys that have been here for over 5 years, doing this for help. now granted, a dew people have goten hurt because they did not take the move the right way. but as far as i can remeber out of over 5 years that ibw has been around only 3 people have gotten hurt. not a broken neck or a life threatining injury. roken fingers here and there dislocated sholder. everyone in ibw trains b4 there matches and talks to there opponents and tells them exactly what to expect and how they will move in the ring. everyone here knows the risks, hell you can get hit by a car walking outside ur house. life is unpredicatble, but these people are doing something they love, something they believe in. people excersize and get in shape just to wreslte here. this is for a bunch of friends to have a good time and entertain the fan, and i must admit i have had a hell of alot of fun watching them all. now seriously whos going to sue the parks department when they get hurt? although i supose that you all believe that we should stop doing this because we will get hurt. i guess it will be better if we all sit on our couches and get fat? or mabey we should all hang out on street corners and sell drugs and carry around guns? because trust me this actualy keeps us out of trouble. we are in a secluted area where we wont bother anyone. there are hundreds of kids around the tri-state that wrestle unprofessionaly and no matter how hard you try you cant stop it. this is a life style not some little fad. no matter how many times you rip down a wreslting federations ring, or ticket them there just going to rebuild and restart some place new.
-vileraven
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Right. alert me when your Flippy McGuillacutty (Thanks, CM) moveset gets you on Spike or USA.
I’ll go with no on that. And please, with the allegations of the Parks Department burning Parks land. That’s up there with all the other all time gold conspiracy theories. Have fun in dillusional land where there’s 1 wrestling school in nyc, while some of us have actually worked dates.
Yardies talking out of their butts is all I’m seeing here. Go climb your old wooden ladder and jump onto an old fence covered in tacks. You guys make Mike Kruel look like Karl Gotch.
Yardies. Pfffft.
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I was once a member of IBW long before it was even refered to as IBW. Back then our “ring” was 4 old moldy mattresses and there were a total of 5 people there at any given time, and then we did the dumbest things (such as jumping from a batting cage onto someone with a chair resting on there chest). Long since I have stopped even though I was begged to return at one point I used the experience to vent some much bent up fustration and it worked.
I look back at that and relize then was the time we all could have been killed we even had a system to leave one another in the middle of the street if we got hurt call the cops and run THAT WAS WHAT WE ALL AGREEED TO DO IF SOMETHING WENT WRONG!! This we at least 5 years ago.
Now I look back at the actions of IBW and I saw the use of weapons beyond what I could comprehed and was apauled it went beyond sportsmen ship and I was imbarassed to be known as a former werstler. But still the little group began to group with popularity and reputation and it evolved into an actual sportsmen like event again the weapons took a step back for actual moves and actions that were like what you would see on “professional werstling” After the CNN broadcast eveything changed and it became a sport once again, and I personaly feel apauled at the fact that people are once again belittling this group becasue they dont have the finances to set up things properly If the parks department really wants this type of thing to stop then set up a location where kids that have these urges to vent a location to do so This kids build an amazing ring with scrap and junk and it witheld an onslaught of abuse for almost 2 years. If an actual ring was made the risks would be minimal and if so needed supervison could be apointed since half of the parents know by now where there child is going when he says im going to the backweeds (expecially if they are flying the flag of IBW)
It apears to me that poeple need something to complain about and since the backweeds are still a slum and an eye sore they pick the group of kids that were viewed negitavly once before as a scapegoat. I agree with Wil and all the others that arent a shame to put there names out that belive this is a crok. I was upset to see where IBW was going before but in there recent actions I am proud to be a former member IB(F-in’)W..
It was a part, and always will be apart, of who I am im and glad to say that……….
- The Don says ” You Wana Peice a Me?!?”
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On a personal note if you are going to banter on this at least use a name even if its bogous Anonymous makes you seem like a Coward and will simply prove you aren’t really intersted in trying to make a change rather then start arguments.
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How else will the parks department destroy something on there own land?
And Parks Department burning their own land. Wait… What’s that thing that they do in California? Oh YEA! They cause forest fires now, so that they don’t start later and become even worse.
I never said there wasn’t one school in NYC.
But MOST schools:
1) Won’t take in yardies.
2) Will make you stop yarding when you join.
and
3) Are more then a thousand dollars.
And we’ll keep climbing our old wooden ladder, cuz we can’t afford to do dates, and we want to have fun, and have our own matches, and build our own stories, and control our own environment. I’m not scared to post my name, because I’m not scared of where this can go. And i’m only asking if yarding is illegal back weeds, give us a reason, besides it being “non passive recreation”, because “non-passive recreation” is the only fun that people have back weeds.
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what about the paintballers and the ‘adult’ dirtbikers
I’m no fan of the parks dept but they only pick on kids and give out their stupid ecb summones. I got an ECB summons they said they saw me doing something I wasent and I fought it and won.
it seems like they only pick on the ones they feel like going after that week.
I remember the cnn gerritsen story and joe the paintball guy was in it acting surprised. when he knew full well what was going on with his kids.
I think parks turns a blind eye until someone complains.
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its funny because out ring has been torched numorous times, weve rebuilt it everytime. now anyone who has actualy worked on building that ring will know how much time and effort it is. not one of us will burn down something we have put so much time and effort into. that was OUR RING no one elses. that was our safe haven, no one would burn that down. we have had our rings burnt like 3 times, our ring ropes cut and stolen hundreds of times, and multiple other things stolen and destroyed. this fed was built on friendship and in the sportsman ship of wrestling. we would never burn our own ring, in fact we have been looking 4 the vandels behind this 4 years now. dont jump to judge, you dont know us like you think.
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I agree with Wil, and Don. And I see that Wil has made many points that I have as in the sports section of this. Football, baseball, wrestling are all contact sports.
But if you are going to say that we can not be amateur wrestlers, and that is your reason that we will brake our necks, as someone said. Why are the people allowed to play Baseball, or Football, or even ride their Dirt Bikes back there since allot of them are amateur players/riders. They could brake their necks since they are not pro ball players. My father played football in Highschool, and football out on the street. He said the Injuries in the Highschool field where ridicules, and even worse in college the numbers went up. People spend most of their lives playing football to gain a scholarship to college or the NFL, and do you know the number of players that come out of this dead, paralyzed, or have had their lives ruined because they wanted to be the star of the football team?
Now apply that to IBW, how many IBW wrestlers can you say have been injured, broken bones? All I seem to notice was cuts and scrapes. I started in IBW in the summer of 2005. I have never broken a bone. Sprang anything at all. Show me the danger I was in. I remember playing football and I got hit so bad that I blacked out. That never happened when I wrestled, in “Backyard” or in a ring with Pro wrestlers. And yes I am one of the few who have wrestled with Pro wrestlers in a Pro ring and all.
So you can not give me that you have no training bit. I am also one of the few who are leaving “Backyard” to go train to become a pro wrestler, and the only reason why I feel I can do this is because of all the things that have happened to me in the “Backyard” when I wrestled in IBW. And I would like to go on into pro wrestling, put “Backyard” aside, though I will always carry a place in me for IBW, you can not forget your roots.
But if you wish to condemn the wrestlers of IBW, I suggest you go after anyone who dose anything back there in the Back Weeds, as for all the baseball players, football players, and mostly paint ballers, and dirt bike riders they are hurting the environment far worse then any of us back there are with their fumes spewing out of their bikes into the air as they drive down the paths, hell I have even watched them drive through weeds making new paths, and what of the small animals that are scurrying away from the bikes as they plow thru the weeds? Oh but lets go after the kids wrestling, those savages.
Now I bet things would have been much different if there where a more wrestling facilities in NYC. Unlike every other sport there is, wrestling is the only one that has 1 school, and that school doesn’t even publicize that they have wrestling in their facility. And another fun fact about this gym, do you know you can not get into the wrestling school unless you know someone in it? But put that all aside, say you have all that stuff, now getting into the school, you have to pay over 3K to wrestle under their gym, plus gym dues which will make it over 100 extra a month, and you must be 18 to train in this school. Most of the wrestlers in IBW, in fact most of the ”Backyard” wrestlers all over NYC do not have the cash, or know how to get into this school. With college, living situation, everything added all together, how do you expect those who want to follow their dream to become wrestlers, to be able to do this? Are you just going to tell them, that they can not follow their dreams? I don’t see you saying that to any of the football players, baseball, or Hokey, hell even the boxers, what of all them? Are you going to tell them if they can not afford their dreams they can not have it? I see people playing baseball in the street, no one bothers them, why are you bothering us? We are not hurting anyone. We are just poor inner city kids who do what we love to on the weekends with friends, I’m sure you and your friends get together to play some sort of street ball, every now and then, no matter how old you are. Should you too be prosecuted for that?
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I am a wrestler in IBW, go to my site and watch my vids not one from 3 years ago and you’ll see that not one time has something violent happened. Also if you have something to say do not write anonymous grow a set and leave your name…Also in defense of IBW you all say this is dangerous and someone can get hurt. But yet you play contact sports can’t someone get injured in the same way? By the way how many people are in IBW and off the streets? hmmmm it seems to me that we are doing something rght…
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It would seem you need an English lesson.
How many of you have taken a 15 foot high dive off a shanty?
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The issue is lost here. I don’t care about the pros and cons of your activity, and the fact that you are defending your activity is irrelevant. The issue is that it’s illegal to do on parkland.
Bottom line – that’s it.
You don’t own parkland – the government does, and while we can use the land, our uses are limited to what they will allow. It’s not about how your particular group go about its business, it’s that the activity is not allowed where you do it.
If you’re so passionate about your activity, feel free to do it on land you own, or land that you have permission to use, and knock yourselves out.
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I’d like to have a meeting with the parks dept and community leaders to discuss this issue. Atleast allow us to prove our point.
so if you can help set up this meeting we can discuss the pros and cons and decide the proper actions in this matter
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I’m sure after you torched the ring, the Parks department would love to discuss things with you, too.
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FUCK MANNY!!
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“The issue is lost here. I don’t care about the pros and cons of your activity, and the fact that you are defending your activity is irrelevant. The issue is that it’s illegal to do on parkland.
Bottom line – that’s it.
You don’t own parkland – the government does, and while we can use the land, our uses are limited to what they will allow. It’s not about how your particular group go about its business, it’s that the activity is not allowed where you do it.
If you’re so passionate about your activity, feel free to do it on land you own, or land that you have permission to use, and knock yourselves out.”
What is also illegal to do on parkland is paintballing, dirt biking, 4x4ing, hell, even RUNNING or YELLING is illegal backweeds.
Once those are controlled, maybe you’ll have a right to say we should stop.
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YEEEEEEeeeee-Haaaaaaaaaaaw
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Yeah so I know most of the people who wrestle even though I have not participated in the event and I know for a fact that they put they’re all into every match. To them its a sport that they enjoy, and no sport is illegal.
The direct definition of sports is “1 a: a source of diversion : recreation b (1): physical activity engaged in for pleasure (2): a particular activity (as an athletic game) so engaged in” so how is this backyard wrestling any different? If anything its safer then most other sports (as stated above) that are supposedly “legal” to play in the park, why should their be different rules for backyard wrestling. It may look violent but it really isn’t violent at all, an occasional injury here and there but nothing compared to some of the injuries I’ve seen in other sports, and I should know because i was on an actual wrestling team for Madison and I’ve had 1 friend who broke is arm wrestling, and another whos broken a few of his ribs, and many other injuries, and I’m not lying.
Also how is building a ring any different from setting up some goal posts for a game, or even kids playing handball aginst the side of a building. All the materials used was trash found lying around that was recycled and used for the ring. The fact is that the government doesn’t make rings to wrestle in but they do go on making fields for football players, basketball courts, and even things like ice skating rinks for hockey players.
Another thing “I’m sure after you torched the ring, the Parks department would love to discuss things with you, too.” what the hell are you talking about where did you come up with this, people who don’t know what they’re talking about shouldn’t open their mouths.
Also “It would seem you need an English lesson.
How many of you have taken a 15 foot high dive off a shanty?” most the people have had a proper education, and your going to critize them for one or two spelling mistakes because they really don’t care about spelling and grammer in a time like this, and they do attend college, and that goes for me too. How much do you know about things like calculus and physics you uneducated peon. You don’t have any right to critize anyone elses knowledge, and to top it off you don’t even leave a name. Your just an arrogant coward who likes to run his mouth.
In refrence to this guys comment “You mean a bunch of backyard nerds thought they could wrestle?
Wow, that must have gone over real well with their 6 year old audience demographic.
Talk about doing something constructive with your time.”
I believe they are doing something constructive their finding away to vent their emotions, do a sport that physically make them stronger, and keeps them from all the other crap in the world such as drugs an shit.
And lastly in refrence to the paintball and to dirtbikes, well first off paintballs are actually biodegradable and break down and decompose and it actually benefited the areas where people would play paintball, and dirtbikes lets off as much pollution as some cars and trucks. (although they really shouldn’t be riding in areas where they run the risk of hitting other people) but I think the biggest issue is money, not everyone is able to spend money on wrestling schools and profesional paintball (but most people are making an effort and they are going to go pro-wrestling schools soon) and they shouldnt be penalized for trying to do something entertaining in areas that are normally uninhabited by other people or animals.
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“You mean a bunch of backyard nerds thought they could wrestle?
Wow, that must have gone over real well with their 6 year old audience demographic.
Talk about doing something constructive with your time.â€
another thing backyard nerds, I”m sure your doing something great with your life that you would even check a website like this in the first place, and as far as the fans go ibw had plenty of fans all over the world. They had more admirers then you ever will
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Ohh i also forgot to mention that the videos taken were incredibly old videos when most of these people were just starting, and they did rely alot on weapons, but now most of them barely use weapons and rely on moves that they constantly practice on each other and when they do use weapons its only to make a statement that they are not afraid to take it beyond what others do, but they still do it at a respectivly safe level. The only times they get hurt is when some unknown variable is thrown in and it accidentally goes wrong.
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What wildlife do you have?
Besides over 150 species of birds (including hawks, falcons, songbirds, waterfowl, wading birds, and shorebirds…all of which are protected by federal law and the migratory bird treaty) you can find muskrats, opossum, raccoons, and an occasional winter seal in the creek. The amount of wildflowers in the spring is amazing, but every time there is a fire, more of the weeds take over.
The park rangers’ real job is to educate the public and protect the park. They spend 99% of thier time running public and school programs for the benefit and enjoyment of the public, and why they are so hated is beyond me. Most of the park rangers I have met are really nice people who are excited to teach people about the few green spaces left in NYC and really care about their preservation. I wouldn’t be proud of getting a summons from a park ranger, you must have really pushed them.
No one is aguing whether or not these kids should be able to do this wresling, but they can’t do it in a park. Land is set aside for football, baseball, soccer and other sports, so don’t start comparing this amature wrestling to that. That’s just rediculous.
Did anyone see the garbage left behind by the kids? That alone bothered me more than the wrestling ring. We have a beautiful park, but no one seems to want to take care of it. Everyone wants to do thier own thing and its too bad for anyone who disagrees. If anyone has heard of the “Tragedy of the Commons,” this is a prime example.
The statement about the park rangers setting fire to the ring is just plain ignorant. I’m sure they had nothing better to do at 2 am on a saturday night than to sneak into gerritsen beach and torch a pile of matresses. I’d be looking at all of those 18 year old underaged kids that went into the bar right after being handed thier summonses and were standing out on the street watching the ring burn. Park rangers in California do start controlled wildfires for various reasons, but its not for petty revenge on a bunch of kids for building a wrestling ring.
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Well the ticket wasn’t regarding the littering issue, but I do understand that the garbage was a big deal but most of the wrestlers actually cared and warned people not to leave their garbage lying around, but that wasn’t even done by the wrestlers, but the people that would use the ring to hang out. Another issue that has nothing to do with the wrestling is the “underaged kids” going to the bars and drinking and watching the ring burn, first off thats a different issue entirely, also thats there problem and no one else. Also how can you disregard backyard wrestling as a sport its no different from any of the other sports. Also look at how they have recently built a skate park(not that i have anything aginst it) but their are definitly more people getting hurt in that.
Also most of the animals your talking about are all located by the creek because almost none of them live in backweeds.
Lastly I’ve done community service at the Salt Marsh center(for my school, nothing else) and yes the ones I met were nice but how does a couple of kids wrestling bother them at all? Also their recently hasn’t been any supposed “recreation” done, and i doubt they’ll ever be. So I really don’t see the harm or big deal for anyone doing backyard wrestling.
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Damn emo kids, I cant read this much. They remind me of this:
http://myspacide.ytmnd.com/
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yeucQl0U_sw
Thanks NickLak for chiming in, i thought it was funny.
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I have to say I am impressed with the IBW and you all. You are very well spoken and defend your sport well. I went to a holiday party and when I came back I was overwhelmed with the responses, but I took the time and read them.
As for the videos I picked, they were the first to come up in a search, thats how i picked them. I used to play paintball back weeds, I know how it is, I know the deal with the parks department. We used to build stuff back weeds too only tor have parks tear it down. If caught we could of gotten our gear taken away. The best thing I learned, is to keep walking get to the street and off park property and dont stop walking.
Now if you were to turn back time like 20-30 years ago, didnt that generation all used to dig GIGANTIC bunkers in the ground? I remember hearing story’s of huge parties.
Ok, everyone, this has gotten way out of proportion. Read the main point of this article, “is this a problemâ€
No, this is not a problem. Everyone from IBW has been saying thing completely unneeded toward this discussion, so im telling everyone now, DROP IT
Back weeds is a nature trail, nothing more, what we are doing back there is WRONG, and that’s why we got tickets. And its not just us wrestling, parks department is cutting down on all illegal activity back weeds, including paintball, dirt bikes, forts, even littering. Most of the people who wrote back saying the parkies don’t stop anything, YOUR WRONG. Just a month ago, I got a ticket for playing paintball, and a few months ago pat the chef got a ticket for carrying wood back weeds, the parkies are cutting down, there weren’t just out to get us. Right before they came to the ring, they gave 8 people tickets for paintball, and 2 for riding quads.
Now on to the actually point of this article, NO us wrestling in the weeds in not a problem. What we are doing is a productive activity; witch keeps us out of trouble. I know personally if I wasent wrestling all these year, I would have turned out just like all my other friends have, high school dropouts with drug problems, and anyone who knows me can vouch on that. One point I don’t understand is how people can say this is a problem, if without this article being posted, you would have never knew it was going on in the first place. The only thing bad that can happen from us wrestling is a few pissed off parents. No one has EVER been badly injured in IBW, and if something horrible like that would happen, know one would blame anyone but themselves. Everyone in IBW has been trained and for the most part, knows what there doing. A few others and myself have been taught by pro wrestlers, and have passed our knowledge onto the rest of the fed.
Most of gerritsen like us, and have donated items to IBW. One farther even came up to me in the pizza place one day and thanked me for letting his son watch us every week. Even the vollies like us, and told us to call them if we ever needed help. Also, along the lines of saving the dump back weeds is, do anyone of you remember back weeds up until 2001. There was a fire everyday, and half the weeds were missing at least 3/4’s of the year. Notice how that has changed. There barley any fires anymore, mainly because of us. We’ve stopped kids from lighting fire back weeds on many occasions, and because most kids use our ring as a hangout, there’s barely any “shacks†built back there leading to it being burned down. We do nothing but good for the community. You act like were some of the cold-hearted kids breaking the damn bus shelters every night, or the vandals doing graffiti all over the place. IBW keeps kids out of trouble, off the streets, and gives to gerritsen in general, so how in anyway is this a problem. Once again, what we do is illegal to do back weeds, but most likely, your pastime is 2.
And to ever though up the idea that we burnt down the ring, ARE YOU CRAZY?? If only you knew how many seemingly endless garbage night we’ve spent getting the items needed, the money we spent, and the time to actually build it, you’d understand why we could never do such a thing,
As far as I know, wrestling back weeds will not end, my friends will keep this going for as long as they can, and I wish luck to them. I on the other hand, will not continue to do this, because as most of you don’t believe, I’ve made a career out of backyard wrestling all these years, showing once again how good this is for the kids to be doing.
PS: to IBW members, stop posting your stupid ass comments, just let this end, it’s nothing to worry about.
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Backyard wresting shoul dbe just that. IN THE BACK (OR FRONT) YARD.
The fact this is going on in the weeds on public land is the real problem. If someone were to be hurt, the parents would run tot he hospital to check on their loved one & then go straight to a lawyer to sue the parks dept. & anyone else they can for their child’s reckless behavior.
We’ve all done dumb things. yes there were forts back weeds Yes underage drinking is certainly not new. what is new is parent’s suing on behalf of their child’s stupidity.
Example: the guys who jumped off the pier in Coney Island EVEN THOUGH THE SIGN SAID NO DIVING, The kid breaks his neck, is paralized & the parent’s sue the city and win MILLIONS for their child’s stupidity. SO AS LONG AS THERE ARE LAW SUITS, THERE WILL BE NO FUN!
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We’ve had injuries which have ended with people in the hospital, albeit minor (broken fingers and the such) and we’ve never sued the parks department.
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I think the real problem here is not what these kids are doing but what everyone is not allowed to do on this wonderful wasteland we dare to call a Nature Preserve.
The Community lives with the rodents that wonder out of these infested weeded area and yet has no real say on how we can & can not use the area that was supposed to be left for recreation for the children.
It was supposed to be used for schools, parks & recreation but all we got was a few parks & for lack of better words a school if that’s what you want to call it & a few baseball fields that are used for football & soccer too
The deal with the usage for the fields is that it is supposed to be for non profit but for you to use the field you need a permit which the parks dept charges money for big money ! So I think that’s the first illegal act being perpetrated.
As far as people being in shock over the powers that be burning the kids ring down & finding it totally unacceptable then I guess reality should slap you all in the face once & for all – Reality Check Here People Yeah They Do It !
Maybe you don’t remember when I don’t know lets go back 20 or 30 yrs & there was a car burning in the back of the weeds at like lets say 2:00 AM, Who Do You Think Started The Fire ? The Car Thieves – No
it was the Police That’s Who —- Surprised —- Don’t be — Now why would the police burn the cars — Well it would stop the thieves from striping the remains of the car — That’s why, It’s as simple as that — Not that calling a tow truck to recover the stolen vehicle wasn’t a better option instead of starting a fire & leaving it there to burn out on it’s own.
So here’s a New Question if the Police would burn stolen cars to stop the thieves from stripping the cars because it was hard to sneak up on them & catch them in the act then why wouldn’t The Parks Dept Deploy the same tactics here.
Burn the stolen car & the thief has to steal another car if he wants to get his parts — burn his cars enough times he’ll bring them somewhere else so if They burn down their wrestling ring enough times maybe the kids who are building it will get tired of rebuilding it & go somewhere else —- Do Ya Think !
I love this Community we have those who always see the glass as half full & half empty depending on how the situation is effecting them or their family. Is there a problem here in GB Yes there is it’s called no one here can focus on any one real issue because other things are clouding their judgments.
We need more Traffic Lights on the Ave for safety reasons but not many people want to see them go up because it will take more time to drive down the Ave. so no one want’s to put up a big fight & get them & then there’s the cost of the lights & the city don’t want to foot that bill.
But they’ll give a few million to build Seba park so I guess we can help the City Pay For them with the Tickets That The Police Dept, Parks Dept & Traffic Dept are witting every day to our kids & our Parked Cars at 1:30, 2, 3, or even 4:00 AM while your Sleeping
We all need to unite & join together when there is a cause & fight to make it right. The issue is not about these kids wrestling in the park but the definition of the usage of the park – The defection of the park does not even allow for the usage of the air plane fields but I don’t see them witting tickets over there.
Maybe these kids should apply for a permit to utilize the area & immobilize a portable ring for themselves like the soccer association does with their nets & other equipment. I guess that might make it right.
In the mean time understand the cause & if you choose to get involved & help out a neighbor in need Then good for you, I choose to support the Kids in their fight here so more power to them.
So, Next time you see someone Golfing on the Baseball Fields you might want to tell them to be careful as so they don’t clip one of those 150 varieties of birds in the head & kill them with the ball or the kids in that place they call a school screaming in the rear court yard they might scare off the wild life.
Oh Yeah & in the future I guess if your child is under 18 & wants to go play in Seba Park you’ll have to be accompanying them to the park to sign a waiver so if your kid falls on the Million Dollar Skate Ring the city just built there they you won’t sue them for their injuries, Unless that stipulation is going to be in the permit your going to need to purchase from the Parks Dept to use the park.
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I am a wrestler at IBW and proud to say it. I joined IBW 1 year ago and since then I have had a great time and have had no major injuries. I did play high school football and I felt more pain playing football than wrestling, and that is with protection. We practice and train the best we can to wrestle. Would you guys rather us wrestle in the street and using your front door or windows as weapons. We take the time to build a ring and though it is not 100% safe, it is better than nothing. I believe we are different than other backyard wrestling feds because most feds dont use a ring..they use parks where kids play or streets etc. We are not bothering anyone, why dont you complain about the god damn ATV’s that come over there and disturb the neighborhood and wilderness. Backyard wrestling to us is a sport and if you take the time to sit down and think what a sport is you will find similarities between wrestling and baseball, football, soccer, hockey, etc. We are a team. Would you rather us sell drugs on a corner in YOUR NEIGHBORHOOD., I think not. And for anyone in GB that feels disgraced at us backyard wrestling, look at your community. Believe it or not when I tell my friends to come watch us in Gerritsen Beach, the one thing they say to me is “No they are racists”. Do you guys LIKE being known for being racist. I’d rather be known for backyard wrestling than be known as a racist F*CK.
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And to add to my comment I think that “Gerritsen Beach Resident” has a good idea for parks dept.
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As far as the Parks department burning down the ring, the Parks department knows how fast fires spread back there, and constantly monitors for them. The notion they’d set one is ludicrous. Your definition of a wasteland is an interesting one. You don’t like to coexist with nature, you like to subjecate it. That’s appearant with your tangent about not caring about the bird species. Philosophical difference? Sure.
Doesn’t make the callous disregard for nature exhibited by a great many around here ANY LESS APPALLING.
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I wrested for IBW a little bit and I’ve also been around almost the entire backweed area and the ring area was in better shape than alot of other areas
As for safety I played three years of both football and baseball and got hurt alot more often with those then with wrestling..
Parents suing…I doubt it will ever happen first off injuries are very rare there and also anyone who would get injured wouldn’t tell their parents it was from wrestling whether they know about the wrestling or not.
All IBW does is help anyone who goes you make friends and stay away from any trouble you may find on the streets without any hobbies and we live in NYC where else can we do it nobody here has a house that i know of with a large enough backyard to build a ring in nevermind permission to do so.
We barely use any space and dont negatively effect the area i dont see where this should be such a problem all it does it create tension and prevent people from having their dreams and trying to follow them
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I would just like to say, as someone who helped in creating IBW I would say that back then i would never imagined all the problems that IBW has caused. I will also say that I’ve been there at EVERY SINGLE SHOW since it started and I’ve never seen someone die, and although people do get injured (sometimes seriously) i can’t say that what we do in the backweeds is good for the enviorment.
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and I’ve also lived in this beach my whole life and can also say that the weeds are very well protected in the first place because the parks are bunch of dropouts who act blike they give two shits
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once again, this is way out of hand, just drop it, you’ve defeted the purpose of th articile
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I normally don’t put in my two cents but here go’s . I’ve lived in Gerritsen beach for a long time , not twenty or thirty years like some of you new bee’s but my family has lived here for over eighty years . We were hear before 277 was built , before resurrection was build in fact before the new section was completed . I watched them raise Gerritsen ave twice . To people like me the field area has a special meaning . When it was first donated it was not part of marine park and in the words of Mrs Gerritsen it was to be used by the common man . notice the word man , not possum .
For many years the people of Gerritsen beach took care of it . Once a year the court club would with the help of most of the residents of Gerritsen beach would clean the area and then have a community clam bake / barbeque . The Husky a Gerritsen Beach football team ,cleaned and maintained a football field . Gerritsen beach little league , which by the way is still in existence built and maintained a ball field . The volleys had trained their fire fighters there . On some hot summer nights the Duffy post band would practice playing and marching there . These weeds as they’re called are part of our heritage .
If any of you can remember when the park Dept first took an interest in Gerritsen beach , They built fields put up fences planted grass and told everyone this now belongs to us . with in a few years the grass was dead , the fences were unpainted and in disrepair and frankly they seamed not to care what went on in the park . Then came Gerritsen beach cares . A Gerritsen beach base group . G.B.care’s along with many volunteers from the area took tons of garbage out of the back weeds and park area . They pulled weeds from the ball fields and cleaned up the area . They also made the park Dept aware of the problem . again it was Gerritsen beach to the rescue . maybe that’s why our children think they can use the weeds for there own enjoyment
. If you really want to see misuse of the area , I would suggest you stand on Gerritsen and Devon and look across one sat or Sunday afternoon . Your see ball player peeing on tree’s and fences . buss loads of kids blocking our now narrow Ave . running their engines and polluting our air and who do you think cleans up there garbage ? not them , not the park dept . once again it Gerritsen beach to the rescue . I wonder what would happen if one day we just stopped . I don’t have to wonder I already know . The garbage would pile up , the wild life would start dyeing off , The park dept would leave and then on one would care what was done back there . I guess you can say by caring we are our own worst enemy . But don’t worry as long as there’s a Gerritsen beach , there will be people who care about the weeds .
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Wrestling is fake and for the unfortunate who don’t have brain cells that function. If you want to participate in this so-called sport do it in your own yard or your own home who cares? Darwin’s theory at work, but don’t do it in the weeds where when one of you geniuses brake your neck your slack jaw relatives will sue the city and you know they will.
Grow up and do something productive with your lives.
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ooooowww yeaaaaa Crack into a SLIM JIM!
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Wrestling may not be “real” but nonetheless requires a lot of physical strenght and stamina, and even if someone did get hurt nobody would sue because they know it was their own fault.
Also what do you do with your life that is so productive, and for someone who likes to put others down about their intellegence you used the wrong spelling of brake, its break you nimrod.
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Also to respond to Gerritsen Girl. We know wrestling is STAGED (fake is a whole different story, wrestling would be fake if we had people doing our falls for us, but no, we don’t have stunt men), and what we do is STAGED, just like, a dance routine. So if doing a dance routine backweeds is illegal (which it is by the “passive recreation” law) then anyone who does a spin in the park should be ticketed…
But that’s not the point you’re making. The point you’re making is we should grow up and do something with our lives. Well, i’d like you to tell that to every single artist that has a dream and wants to pursue it.
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yo i dont want my video on this site
please take it out
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i dont want people thinking that was a race thing
so please just take video out
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To The Anonymous Old Timer who wrote that great story about the fields from years ago I Thank you I couldn’t have put it any better myself.
I called the fields a waste land because that’s exactly what it is Wasted land. It’s purpose was supposed to be for use by the common man not possum, racoon, or 150 different verity of birds that are living there. It was supposed to be used for schools & parks & recreation & all we got was one small school out of it & a few feilds.
Truth be told the wildlife is running out of places to exist in & they do need some space to exist too but they will adapt to their environment as per it’s new conditions
To the other Anonymous Writer who said my definition of a wasteland is an interesting one I hope the explanation above helps clear things up a bit for you.
As far as the Parks department burning down the ring it’s not ludicrous You said they know how fast fires spread back there so who better for the job. It’s funny how just the rink burnt down & not the whole fields
Then I guess for lack of a better explanation you can call it a well controlled fire that was set by amateurs
You also said I don’t like to coexist with nature, you like to (subjecate) it. That’s (appearant) with your tangent about not caring about the bird species. Philosophical difference? Sure.
I congratulate you, you win the Five Dollar of The Day Award For Being Able to use big words in a sentence.
But then I have to deduct a few points for the bad spelling of those large words I think the word you were trying to spell was subjugate which means to bring under control or conquer & Appearent
I have no problem coexisting with the wildlife, Comprehend this I live here in Gerritsen Beach It don’t get any wilder than that.
If you want to see a callous disregard for nature exhibited by a great many don’t be looking to hard at the Residents of Gerritsen Beach
You If you really want to see misuse of the area, I’m gonna use a quote from the Anonymous Old Timer
” I would suggest you stand on Gerritsen and Devon and look across one sat or Sunday afternoon. You”ll see ball player peeing on tree’s and fences . Bus loads of kids blocking our now narrow Ave. Running their engines and polluting our air and who do you think cleans up there garbage ? not them , not the park dept . once again it Gerritsen beach to the rescue . ” Now That’s APPALLING.
As for proof that the wildlife will adapt look at the Red Tailed Hawk that’s Living on the side of a high rise building in the upper east side of Manhattan I wouldn’t call that the best conditions for a Red Tailed Hawk but Their Surviving & with their Off Spring just fine.
By the way did you know that we have Owls living in Manhattan too – yep the city let them loose to loose to lower the rodent problem. I would consider that to be less than perfect conditions for an owl but they have adapted pretty well over the past 20 or so years there.
We need more recreation for our children here & the fields are the perfect place to allow the residents & any other Common Man who wants to go Fishing, Golfing, Four Wheeling, or even Wrestling without being Hassled & Fined by Law Enforcement.
The real issue here is the quality of life for the people or is drinking & getting drunk or selling or doing drugs more appealing for our children. The Wildlife we speak of in the back weeds as amazing as they may be are no endangered species & will not seize to exist if a few kids want to smash florescent bulbs over their heads or one of our kids wants to take a blast down one of the trails with their Dirt Bike or Quad.
You know it’s funny as long as I can remember dirt bikes have been a part of the kids from Gerritsen Beaches culture & I didn’t just move in here yesterday either I remember Gerritsen Ave being raised I remember the drug store next to Tracy Reality & the Marine supply store that used to be where the law office is next to the butcher I remember when the Elsie K was a little fishing boat Wow how that Boat grew over the years.
I just think the community & the kids that live in it need to be treated with a little respect & given back what is rightfully ours so it won’t have to be a wasted land.
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all of you people are full of it i grew up here my whole life watching and participating with drinking in the park main vain airplane fields these kids dont bother anyone but themselves leave them alone everyones done stupid stuff back there and now your kids are to ill be back there on my quad this weekend if anyone wants to discuss this
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and just out of curiosity where do all the blacks and jews that come from out of the neighborhood with there parks department permits go to the bathroom???i know they are not holding it in where is their tickets
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To GB resident
I couldn’t agree with you more . The children of Gerritsen beach do need a place to express themselves’ in a way that is safe and entertaining to them . But there is the problem . We only have the one civil group that is recognized my the city as the official spokes group for Gerritsen beach and that’s the property owners . As good as they are and I do think they try their best for Gerritsen beach . It is a enormous task and one that would take up all they time .
As you may know we once had the teen dances in the church and then a teen club was formed that met in the court club . This club took the teen to dances , bowling , ski trips and more . They did so well for themselves’ that they ended buying several buildings on the Ave and knocking them down in hopes of building they own place . Unfortunately their plans fell through and now there is a fish place there . I learned just recently that after seeing his son on CNN one of the fathers rented a store on the ave and put up a ring so that his son and his friends could wrestle safely . Some of his rules included no drinking , no drugs ,no weapons inside or outside of the ring and don’t disturb anyone . This lasted about a year then between the rent ,the utility’ and insurance it got to be to much for him .
We have a lot of good people in the beach , we should be able to come up with something for our children before its to late . Maybe if we ask the birds nicely they’re share some of the land with us before its our children who will be on the endangered species list . P.S. tracy was the Park Taven
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hey mike W, maybe the jews and blacks use the bathrooms, you racist asshole. wake the fuck up
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and gb resident, kids don’t deserve respect unless they earn it. This whole thing is insane.
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Thats the point there are no bathrooms there . Well I don’t agree with the words mike w used , I do think everyone should be respected untill like some people here they prove they don’t deserve it .
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