Comments on: Manhattan Beach and their Bunker Mentality http://www.gerritsenbeach.net/2007/06/15/manhattan-beach-and-their-bunker-mentality/ Dedicated to Gerritsen Beach Offering Current News, Links & Reviews with some Memories Wed, 08 Feb 2012 23:28:07 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Gene Berardelli http://www.gerritsenbeach.net/2007/06/15/manhattan-beach-and-their-bunker-mentality/#comment-1247 Gene Berardelli Fri, 22 Jun 2007 19:30:01 +0000 http://www.gerritsenbeach.net/2007/06/15/manhattan-beach-and-their-bunker-mentality/#comment-1247 You're right, no one trampled on anyone's right - because word got out thanks to sites like this before anything could've happened! As far as posting the e-mail, it was forwarded on to me after it was forwarded on to several other people - are you honestly going to tell me what I can do with what comes into my inbox? Plus, the purpose of the e-mail was to get people to a meeting! It was meant to be made public! Finally, time to play "Who's the Liar!" According to his posting, Ron said it was all his opinion and had nothing to so with MB residents. Even the Post picked up on that. You sau "The e-mail...was just reflecting opinions of residents." One of you is telling a fibber... shame shame! :-) Or maybe you're just making up stuff as you go along... Finally, as far as this being "my propaganda" - all I've done is commented on what someone else wrote. I haven't solicited any other opinions, I didn't seek out pres coverage - it just so happens that lots and lots and lots of people share in that opinion, and they told two friends, and they told two friends and so on. As GBNet would say "It's the power of the blog!" But calling all of this "my propaganda" is actually good spin control, deflect blame onto someone else. Good move! Too bad so many see right through you, it could've worked. Talk to you later, sport, as I'm sure you won't be able to resist responding. Looking forward to it! Hey, maybe you'll even get over being shy and "anonymous" and actually man up to say who you really are! But I doubt it. You’re right, no one trampled on anyone’s right – because word got out thanks to sites like this before anything could’ve happened!

As far as posting the e-mail, it was forwarded on to me after it was forwarded on to several other people – are you honestly going to tell me what I can do with what comes into my inbox? Plus, the purpose of the e-mail was to get people to a meeting! It was meant to be made public!

Finally, time to play “Who’s the Liar!” According to his posting, Ron said it was all his opinion and had nothing to so with MB residents. Even the Post picked up on that. You sau “The e-mail…was just reflecting opinions of residents.”

One of you is telling a fibber… shame shame! :-) Or maybe you’re just making up stuff as you go along…

Finally, as far as this being “my propaganda” – all I’ve done is commented on what someone else wrote. I haven’t solicited any other opinions, I didn’t seek out pres coverage – it just so happens that lots and lots and lots of people share in that opinion, and they told two friends, and they told two friends and so on. As GBNet would say “It’s the power of the blog!”

But calling all of this “my propaganda” is actually good spin control, deflect blame onto someone else. Good move! Too bad so many see right through you, it could’ve worked.

Talk to you later, sport, as I’m sure you won’t be able to resist responding. Looking forward to it! Hey, maybe you’ll even get over being shy and “anonymous” and actually man up to say who you really are!

But I doubt it.

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]]> By: Anonymous http://www.gerritsenbeach.net/2007/06/15/manhattan-beach-and-their-bunker-mentality/#comment-1234 Anonymous Thu, 21 Jun 2007 19:53:58 +0000 http://www.gerritsenbeach.net/2007/06/15/manhattan-beach-and-their-bunker-mentality/#comment-1234 nobody trampled on anybody's rights, and nothing was privatized - relax yourself. The e-mail (which you had no right to post publicly as it was not addressed to you) was just reflecting opinions of residents. The point of the meeting would have been to determine which ideas would be realistic and which would not be. While this may not be Gene's site, you sure do a good job passing on his propoganda. nobody trampled on anybody’s rights, and nothing was privatized – relax yourself.
The e-mail (which you had no right to post publicly as it was not addressed to you) was just reflecting opinions of residents. The point of the meeting would have been to determine which ideas would be realistic and which would not be.
While this may not be Gene’s site, you sure do a good job passing on his propoganda.

]]> By: Gene Berardelli http://www.gerritsenbeach.net/2007/06/15/manhattan-beach-and-their-bunker-mentality/#comment-1232 Gene Berardelli Thu, 21 Jun 2007 15:17:05 +0000 http://www.gerritsenbeach.net/2007/06/15/manhattan-beach-and-their-bunker-mentality/#comment-1232 While I don't own this site, I'm certainly support it and enjoy visiting. Anonymous - actually the term "bunker mentality" was coined by a member of the Manhattan Beach Community Group at last month's meeting to characterize putting in surveillance cameras! Given the situation, it seems apt. :-) Oh, and this isn't an issue for a single neighborhood - once you talk about privatizing a public park, it involves everyone. The Manhattan Beach neighborhood doesn't own Manhattan Beach Park. I know, shocking, isn't it? As far as your security goes, of course you're entitled to be safe - you're just not entitled to trample on my and others' rights doing it! While I don’t own this site, I’m certainly support it and enjoy visiting.

Anonymous – actually the term “bunker mentality” was coined by a member of the Manhattan Beach Community Group at last month’s meeting to characterize putting in surveillance cameras! Given the situation, it seems apt. :-)

Oh, and this isn’t an issue for a single neighborhood – once you talk about privatizing a public park, it involves everyone. The Manhattan Beach neighborhood doesn’t own Manhattan Beach Park. I know, shocking, isn’t it?

As far as your security goes, of course you’re entitled to be safe – you’re just not entitled to trample on my and others’ rights doing it!

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]]> By: GerritsenBeach.net http://www.gerritsenbeach.net/2007/06/15/manhattan-beach-and-their-bunker-mentality/#comment-1225 GerritsenBeach.net Wed, 20 Jun 2007 16:27:01 +0000 http://www.gerritsenbeach.net/2007/06/15/manhattan-beach-and-their-bunker-mentality/#comment-1225 This is not in any way gene's site This is not in any way gene’s site

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]]> By: Anonymous http://www.gerritsenbeach.net/2007/06/15/manhattan-beach-and-their-bunker-mentality/#comment-1223 Anonymous Wed, 20 Jun 2007 14:53:58 +0000 http://www.gerritsenbeach.net/2007/06/15/manhattan-beach-and-their-bunker-mentality/#comment-1223 Get over yourself Gene, find someone else to harrass in your own neighborhood. Other than the handfull of people who think as poorly as you do, everyone else in Manhattan Beach is indeed in favor of better security measures for the area. There mere title of "bunker mentality" are your own words, not those of anyone in Manhattan Beach. Keep blowing things out of proportion, including your own credibility (or lack thereof) Get over yourself Gene, find someone else to harrass in your own neighborhood. Other than the handfull of people who think as poorly as you do, everyone else in Manhattan Beach is indeed in favor of better security measures for the area.
There mere title of “bunker mentality” are your own words, not those of anyone in Manhattan Beach. Keep blowing things out of proportion, including your own credibility (or lack thereof)

]]> By: Gene Berardelli http://www.gerritsenbeach.net/2007/06/15/manhattan-beach-and-their-bunker-mentality/#comment-1207 Gene Berardelli Sat, 16 Jun 2007 17:22:57 +0000 http://www.gerritsenbeach.net/2007/06/15/manhattan-beach-and-their-bunker-mentality/#comment-1207 I'd just want to encourage everyone to attend this meeting in Manhattan Beach and let Dr. Biondo know that (1) what he says is not kept in a vacuum, and (2) things that happen in one community affect others. And let's not make the same mistake Dr. Biondo did and paint all of Manhattan beach with the same brush - I have been contacted by many people who disagree with Dr. Biondo's position. Oh and by the way - the supposed shooting and stabbing that Dr. Biondo used as the basis for this meeting? Never happened. I’d just want to encourage everyone to attend this meeting in Manhattan Beach and let Dr. Biondo know that (1) what he says is not kept in a vacuum, and (2) things that happen in one community affect others. And let’s not make the same mistake Dr. Biondo did and paint all of Manhattan beach with the same brush – I have been contacted by many people who disagree with Dr. Biondo’s position.

Oh and by the way – the supposed shooting and stabbing that Dr. Biondo used as the basis for this meeting? Never happened.

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]]> By: saxman678 http://www.gerritsenbeach.net/2007/06/15/manhattan-beach-and-their-bunker-mentality/#comment-1206 saxman678 Sat, 16 Jun 2007 16:14:17 +0000 http://www.gerritsenbeach.net/2007/06/15/manhattan-beach-and-their-bunker-mentality/#comment-1206 That is one of the most small-minded comments I've ever read. Let's hide away and hope the big bad world doesn't hurt us - or do you just not like things -- and people -- who are different? That is one of the most small-minded comments I’ve ever read. Let’s hide away and hope the big bad world doesn’t hurt us – or do you just not like things — and people — who are different?

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]]> By: mike24611 http://www.gerritsenbeach.net/2007/06/15/manhattan-beach-and-their-bunker-mentality/#comment-1204 mike24611 Sat, 16 Jun 2007 14:23:20 +0000 http://www.gerritsenbeach.net/2007/06/15/manhattan-beach-and-their-bunker-mentality/#comment-1204 I dont think thats such a far fetched idea at all. I moved into our neighborhood 4 years ago, and one of the first things i thought was how this is a great and comparitively safe place to live. I have often talked with other neighbors about how we should barricade the corner of Allen and Knapp and limit the access of certain "types" who we dont need in our neighborhood I dont think thats such a far fetched idea at all. I moved into our neighborhood 4 years ago, and one of the first things i thought was how this is a great and comparitively safe place to live. I have often talked with other neighbors about how we should barricade the corner of Allen and Knapp and limit the access of certain “types” who we dont need in our neighborhood

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